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Any Tips for Burnout at Start??

Discussion in '348/355' started by Nero308, Apr 28, 2009.

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  1. RossoCorsaItaly

    RossoCorsaItaly F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

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    Put it in 1st gear

    Hold brake with left foot to prevent from going into N.

    Release brake and immediately floor your throttle to 100%, do not hesitate.

    The car will rev to 7.5k and launch from there.

    I've launched my car this way over 100 times, 13 times at a dragstrip. I can consistently get 1.55-1.60 60 ft's. I'm on original clutch.

    That's not to say you should not take Brian's advice as he has more experience then any of us do, I just never have had an issue using the F1 launching.
     
  2. gidge348

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    That's right Kevin, mid engine cars are great for good solid launches....

    I think what Yoshi wants to do is a burn out, just sit on the spot with clouds of smoke coming off the rears.
     
  3. Tomax

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    Maybe do what TOPGEAR live did and use Toyotas with Ferrari kit-car tops. Those Toyota clutches are much cheaper to fix. One I'm suprised no-one has put forward is a good amount of cheap cooking oil. That will take the pressure off your clutch a little and help with the smoke. Also if it's something you want to do again and again - have a friend record it and make it an AVI. Hitting the spacebar again and again will be very easy on the clutch.
     
  4. J. Salmon

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    People keep talking about burning clutches. Once you dump it (clutch clamps shut) and connect the motor to the rear wheels, you are not going to burn your clutch. Dumping the clutch is not bad for the clutch at all, in fact it will cause almost no wear. The shock of the clutch suddenly clamping down with a spinning motor and stationary wheels is transmitted through the driveline, and that is where you can do damage. Once the wheels are spinning, you are simply burning rubber.

    You will only burn your clutch if you slip it. If clutch life is your goal, burnouts are your answer. But you are going to pay in tires and (possibly) gears.

    Just thought I would clear that up.
     
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  6. RossoCorsaItaly

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    Whoops, my misunderstanding.

    In that case spend $2,500 on a 95 Camaro Z28 and you can burnout all day long. :)
     
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    Ka-ching!

    He obviously has never seen the inside of that gearbox and how tiny some of the important parts are. ;)

    Here are a few photos from an earlier thread:
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    LMAO!
     
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    The smoke is from the bleach as well the tires, in drag strip applications.....:rolleyes:

    I settle for a little 'chirp' from the tires, myself......
     
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    Hi Yoshi,

    I see you are from my neck of the woods. I would be very careful about where you burn rubber.

    I squealed the tires on my 01 Trans Am WS6 several years ago and found out the hard way that it is not a good idea to do burnouts in California. Apparently, burnouts = competitive racing = worse than DUI. They not only arrest you and take you to jail, they also jail anyone who is watching. To make it worse, they impound your car for 90 days. It is usually about $100/day for the impound lot. The insurance companies will also refuse to insure you. I became uninsurable for 3 years and the offense stays on your record for 7 years.

    When I lived in Indiana, a burnout was just a $25 unsafe start ticket.
     
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    Clutch shaft and clutch shaft gears eat it with regularity and so do 1st gears. 1st is a little bitty thing and sometimes they just break in half. That not too bad unless the halves get between the other gears. Then you just throw the whole thing in a dumpster because there isn't enought left to fix.

    I love people like this. Going to help me retire well. They have a real disconnect about other people breaking things and their own behavior.
     
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    It is job security (as long as the parts hold out). :D
     
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    Cool pics! :D:D

    I would have to sell my first born son to pay for damage like that! :eek::eek:
     
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    I guess that big poser wing doesn't improve rear wheel traction much when going sideways.
     
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    So it sounds like a 1-2 shift would be a bit safer, as you are not loading first gear. It's unusual for me to even shift into second hard, but 2-3 happens with some regularity.

    Is the clutch shaft built as a weak link, almost like a fuse?

    Again, do you see many failures with regular "spirited" use? I never dump first gear. But I love to drive the car in the mountains in sport mode and the shifts are pretty abrupt. Actually, I am not sure why I am asking, since I don't think it will change my habits. I mean, if you cannot drive the car and enjoy it, what is the point? I guess I could move it out of sport and let the clutch take some of the abuse.
     
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    No. It just happens to be the part that broke on that one.

    Ferrari transmissions are not made for hard launches. In another 5 years the 355 guys will have a long list of posts about blown up transmissions just like the TR and Boxer guys, and the 348 guys do now. 15 or 20 years ago it was the Daytona guys.


    Many dealers and independants do not do major transmission work. I do so many of them come my way. My scrap metal guy is getting rich on the broken Ferrari transaxle parts I throw away.
     
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    Looks like its time to buy shares in 355 gearboxes eh?? :D:D
     
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    Not in the gearboxxen themselves, but in the repair thereof.

    I own an Enzo with the rare 4L80E automatic option and trust me when I say that I can roast the tires down through the rubber, wheels, brake discs and cv joints all I want, all day...zero problems.

    BTW, you can look up my Enzo in the Enzo Registry under the license plate of PRNDL.

    Foot+gas pedal+firewall is all a guy needs for maximum performance.
     
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    I'd guess that none of the components are built as a weak link or "fuse" in your vernacular, but a combination of a desire for the reduction of drivetrain loss due to lighter components and cost saving measures.

    But then, I am inexpert in this area.
     
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    Sounds like an amazing machine Carl! :D:D
     

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