Anyone know anything about kidney stones?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44728
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50886
http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23416

If there was something in the water that could be boiled away, than it would be in a supplement/vitamin/medication so you wouldn't have to drink loads of it. Unfortunately plain tap water will do just as well as distilled water where the impurities have been boiled off.

Sorry to hear about your dilemma (condition?). I hear its something you don't want to wish on a person.

Good luck!

Cheers,
Sunny

 

Where's Uro when we need him??? WTF?

 

First, sorry to hear your plight.


Second, to generalize about the cause of stones would be really misleading because some stones form in alkaline urine and some form in acidic urine,etc,etc,etc.

It is really important to get a real metabolic work up done. This is not just having the stone analyzed! I have seen many well meaning docs try to give advice based simply on a stone analysis and the poor patient is given random and misleading advice.




Third, the common denominator for treating all stones is staying very well hydrated. You should have a urine output of >2 liters per day consistently, most important on hot sweaty days. You can check this simply be seeing if you fill up a 2 liter coke bottle over a 24 hour period some week end. Water prefered, if not water then water-y drinks like unsweetened things.

Fourth, there are a few really serious reasons to make stones so don't neglect #2 above!


Fifth, don't worry about distilled water etc, the world's hardest tap water has such a tiny bit of calcium compared to an ounce of cheese or a sip of milk its not even comparable.



Sixth, do not restrict your diet with out a good metabolic work up! Simply reducing calcium in many cases will actually cause MORE stones (not enough calcium in the gut to bind oxalate, etc), so don't miss #2^^^^.



Addendum:
A proper metabolic work up would be 3 things:

1. Stone anaysis,
2. 24 hour urine for Calcium, phos, uric acid, oxylate, citrate,
3. Blood draw for calcium, phos, uric acid, protein, creatinine, BUN etc.

 

Wait. You DON'T HAVE A STONE YET........................



I'm such a duffus.

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In that case, drink lots of water and don't worry about it.

 

If you want get a one shot X-Ray called a KUB and a urinalysis to check for blood, If they are both normal you are very likely OK. OK?

 

Doesn't tea actually dehydrate the body (I recall hearing smth like this).

 

Ask Doctor if 500 mg. Dolobid might be a good prescription for you. It ended 3 years of hell, pronto. Didn't have a single side effect on me...

...unless one includes side benefits. As you can see by my avatar picture, it made me even more handsome.

 

Hey Uro

Is there any truth about the guy that passed a stone and fataly shot his dog?

 

Bad:

Very mild diuretic (caffeine). Has a little oxalate as well.


Good: If you drink in kinda dilute and watery with no or little sugar the benefit of the hydration out weighs the little bit of oxalate IMO.

 

Nope. Tell.

 

i though they quit making Dolobid 10 years ago. Still around?

whats Dolobid have to do with this anyway?

 

Don't fret - I was on 10 different meds simultaneously. All to get rid of headaches.


Look at it this way - you can have a whole set of key rings, but each key only opens & locks one door.

Or, you can have a Master Key that opens all the doors & breeze right on in.

That's what Dolobid did for me.

Results may vary.

 

I get it. I always thought of it as an arthritis med, so I was corn-fused.

 

Understandably so! Damn shame, really. See, the Neurologist I had - let's call him Dr. Ice Cold (and for good reason, as his bedside manner was lacking) - said something to this effect - "this is a new drug & it's actually supposed to be for something else, but there's no side effects, especially compared to anything you're taking now, so let's see what happens." (resumes chilling room)

A week later, I was done. 3 years of non-stop - and I do mean non-stop for a second - headaches and thrice-weekly visits to Doc & Relaxation Therapist ended, as did the meds and out-of-pocket expense.

A few years later, he went bankrupt.

Coincidence? I think not. Perhaps he prescribed this to others who didn't need to see him anymore, either.

Now, I should mention the type of headache I had - with each heartbeat - it was pounding. I've still got the scar right below the hairline on the spine - I was pierced by a rod during a very, very bad car accident. Coulda been a lot worse, to put it mildly. In no certain order, I'm alive, I can walk, F-chat to heart's content, pork the ol' lady, etc.

Really should have looked it up to begin with - Dolobid was expensive when it first came out - Generics have likely taken it's place in general Rx conversation. Though Dolobid comes up early and often on searches, Diflunisal is it's apparent Generic (and cheaper) successor.
What's not to like?
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic3/diflunisal_cp.htm

In a nutshell - may be hlpful to cluster/migraine sufferers
http://remedyfind.com/rm-908-Dolobid.asp

Headaches were as described & as one can see, diflunisal/Dolobid are listed under Medications.
http://www.medicinenet.com/migraine/focus.htm

I think this well-kept secret would put a whole lot of headache suffering (and careers) to an end - hence, "Damn shame, really."

 

Dolobid can be very hard on the stomach, kinda like Indomethocin.

If your tummy is OK with it, it's a fine drug.

 

FWIW, and I'd like to hear Uro's take, I suffered from a couple of kidney stones in the mid '80s. Like being kicked in the balls and having the worst case of gas you've ever had simultaneously.

My doc advised me to drink a glass of cranberry juice every day. I do, and haven't had one since. As I say, FWIW.

 

Yeah - see, though injury-induced, as alluded to on previous post - Headaches were as described
http://www.medicinenet.com/migraine/focus.htm

- these were more often than not, the cluster**** of a migraine in every sense of the word - not just one same ol- same ol' you'll get used to it headache - though it was nonstop for 3 goddamned years I wouldn't wish upon (well, almost) anyone. I also spent a pretty penny on same type of antidepressants, so, my empathy runs a little strong on this subject.

I had a relapse some time later - went to Doc, asked for Dolobid by name - Voila! Gone! I haven't been to a Doctor in years and years. If the living hell ever starts up again, I will do exactly the same thing.

As the good Doctor cautions, some folks experience downsides - I had none whatsoever. Ate what I wanted (yay, charbroiled food & ice cream), sunlight was my friend again, etc.. As you can imagine - I had plenty of downsides with a multitude of other meds, so this was a deity-of-your-choice-send. My only hope is your remedy, whatever it may be, proves as satisfactory.