Anyone tried SICOM (or similar) CCM refurbishment

This looks like a very interesting solution to an expensive problem. I would post this on Rennlist because the Porsche guys are much more track friendly. Currently they just swap to the iron rotor setup when the PCCB's are done.

 

Let's hope this is the fix

 

Johan- Should be easily possible. Early CCM brakes have a relatively soft center core with a braking medium bonded to that core. Should be no problem to bond another layer to the core after the original one wears out.

Or buy Mov'It replacement rotors and pads, which are solid carbon silicon carbide, so the braking medium goes all the way through the rotor. Expensive, but will likely never wear out, even with frequent track visits.

 

I'm gonna respectfully disagree with this statement. Factory ceramic rotors are a monolithic carbon structure, nothing is bonded. During the final "bake" the carbon surface absorbs silicon due to the heat/pressure/atmosphere. The silicon can only penatrate so deep, it's impossible to penatrate 100% throughout the core.

 

Have you looked into ZR1 discs? I understand that they are similar in size but I don't know of anyone who has actually tried fitting them to a scud. Much cheaper than stock ($1250 a disc) if they would work.

 

It has been tried. After all the customizing needed to get the rotors, calipers, and pads to match up, not much savings. But the real issue is that you still have the same Brembo CCM rotor with the same short lifespan.

 

My quote was expensive, over $20K, for my GT3. You could finance a top quality BBK and money left over going to steel.

 

...assuming you can get them refurbished. Have you spoken to SICOM? When you select "Ferrari" or "Scuderia" on their website it just says "coming soon."

 

this seems like an interesting alternative. I have CCM on my 09' 430....

 

I just received an email that they have a pair of rear rotors ready for delivery. They are $2400 each and then you get $400 back when you send them your used rotor that is able to be refurbished.

The physical appearance looks a bit different than OEM. My other concern is whether this would change the brake bias of the car by only replacing the rear rotors.
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Close up pic of rear rotor.
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Interesting. My concern would be being the first one to try these on my car. Glad I won't need rotors for a while.

 

After reading their website, and discovering what they are doing, there is no way I would do that with a CCM rotor. They are taking the best properties of a CCM rotor and replacing them with the worst properties of a CCB rotor. If I wanted to salvage a damaged PCCB rotor, this would be an alternative.

 

Also, the website does not mention that their process is completely unnecessary and actually detrimental if applied to a CFRC rotor, like a MovIt CER or ALCON CCX. That would be like putting aluminum siding on a brick house. CFRC rotor resurfacing is about $800 from a factory-authorized dealer.

 

+1. CCM technology is different than CCB technology. Even though the two companies have merged, they are still producing both technologies.

 

Here's what I am doing:

Remove the CCMs and stock pads BEFORE they are worn out and box them up to re-install when I sell the car.

Install CFRC rotors and track pads. Re-surface the rotors every couple years or so, as needed.

When I sell this car, I will move my CFRC rotors to my next track car, and the next one after that (if I live that long).

 

Would you mind sharing more details on this?

What do the CFRC and pads cost?
What is the cost to install the CFRC rotors and pads?
Which pads are you running?
Are any modifications required, or is it a simple install/switch?

Thanks!

 

Can anyone briefly explain the difference between carbon ceramic rotors and carbon fiber reinforced ceramic rotors? Tried my google machine but came up with a bunch of noise.

 

Surface Transforms, plc manufactures the rotors for MovIt, ALCON, and Stillen, and is the OEM supplier to Callaway and Koenigsegg.