As I Found It!

Yes he did say he was working with his other toys.

 

LOL!!!

 

I've been a lurker for some time and this thread encouraged me to register and keyboard my first post. I believe that there is a lot more to the story than we'll ever know. We are only hearing one side of it. Please Mack come back. If for no other reason than I, and I'm sure others, need closure on the restoration process. Don't let politics get in the way.

 

No organization achieves excellence without strong leadership. Thanks, Rob!

 

LOL!

Thanks.

All the best,
Andrew.

 

This is NOT a post I would expect to see from the owner of this or any site. I agree there are rules and they need to be followed. However, here we have an obvious (to me at least) out of touch post by "Novice". He never responded and may have never logged on again - as the owner you can track his use I suppose. But for you as the respected owner of the site to continue to goad him serves what purpose? If it is someone posting under a different alias (as your hint at in the above post) and you know that for a fact - deal with that user off-line.

I thought I expected better from you as I have seen some of your other rulings and pretty much agreed with them. Maybe I was wrong in my expectation. Delete the "Novice" post and your references to it and move on. It serves no purpose in this thread - or any other for that matter.

 

Curt

Rob is about as even handed as it gets. There is no reason to hash out the particulars of what happened in this thread other than to negatively push overall questions about how this site is run despite the underlying facts. Rob is the last person who would stifle conversations on this board without good reason and has gone out of his way to comment specifically on this thread. The thread is great, no doubt, however, it is even less likely to go the way we would all like it to go by questioning the symptom for its recent halt (by the O.P.).

Most of the conjecture is much ado about nothing and an easy resolution can be had. Let's perhaps let it unfold as it will and hope all sides meet a mutually beneficial resolution

 

Can we agree to disagree? Rob is a fair guy from what I've seen. I can't speak for all moderators here, but this is one of the few forums I can come on & not get instantly banned for differing from popular opinion. I seem to have a knack for royally pissing people off

Anyway, Novice et al, swallow your pride & stand down. I'm sure nobody will remember this in a few months. Enjoy Fchat!!!

 

I think what all sponsers on forums need to understand is that content is and should be provided by the members and isn't and shouldn't be controlled or edited by the site. It should be in their contract. Sponsers should be free to advertise but not able to control content. I was on another forum and was banned when I mentioned that their #1 sponser had outrageous prices. Sorry, but it was the truth. That said, I have had nothing but total satisfaction from sponsers of this site.

It's just not good to see stuff like this and hear of good people on this site beginning to jump ship.

 

That is harsh. Rather than ban you, that sponsor should have come back with a statement that will explain/justify their costs....for example "our service/product sets us apart from the rest because......hence our higher than normal costs".

That would have been more effective, more professional, and likely better for that company's business than banning somebody for giving their opinion (and the truth it seems) and acting like a Dictator.

 

Once a contender for thread of the year, its time we had a funeral and bury this thread.

 

All the threads regarding this topic have been closed. This was the closest thing to it.

 

+1. What a bleedin' shame.

 

Great job on this car. A Ferrari is never cheap. I tell everybody, Paid for two and got one. LOL A labor of love. Keep up the good work.

 

J FN C...
This place is worse than communism. Can't someone even post their positive experiences with another vendor other than the title sponsor? By the way, Ricambi is fantastic, but isn't competition a good thing for all of us owners?
Ferrarichat is a business. As posters, we own the business by being the sole providers of content, yet we see limited returns when our content (and subscription $$$) conflicts with the dictators interest.
Many others have seen the writting on the wall here and have left for other Ferrari forums that are user driven and not controled by the $$$. I know at least 2 former sponsors who are no longer here due to the political highschool games that are played here.
Do a google search... There are other places to discuss our passions without the BS.

 

Personally, I think this post is BS...

As posters, we don't 'own' crap. We contribute to the discussion. Period. Some contribute productively, others are non-productive, and others just post with a neutral effect.

Limited returns??? The 'return on our investment' is the wealth of technical advice, the peer-to-peer support, and the community atmosphere.

Dictator's Interest? What a lame, biased, unsupportable comment.

I remain in a constant state of amazement ... High School games indeed.

Mike in Kuwait

 

Not really.

When posters leave for whatever reason, the site looses material. If all the good posters leave (dave helms, Rifledriver, etc...) then this site will no longer offer that "peer to peer support".

Maybe dictators is a bit harsh, but the truth is there have been a few posters who were banned simply because there views didn't jive with those of the man behind the curtain.

 

I've stayed out of this thread for a couple pages, but now I' gonna wade back in.

This site is not perfect. No site is. But, if content, # of posts, # of members, # of hits and just sheer volume of information means anything, this site is a success, and one that Ferrari enthusiasts visit more than an other site of its type.

Worldwide membership. Owners of every Ferrari model ever built posting here with regularity. Mechanics, dealers, parts distributors and manufacturers, and a whole bunch of everyday Joes who just love cars. Pretty successful in my book.

Where's the mass exodus? Sure, guys come and go, but often as not, they come right on back. Why? Because this is the #1 site of its type, and it has more and better content than any of the competition.

The "view of the man behind the curtain" is his vision for FerrariChat.com. He makes sure that we as moderators "get it" and his active presence here insures that all of the membership understands his passion for this site and Ferraris. He's not some giant corporation, he's a guy in Texas living his dream, and making that dream accessible to thousands of folks everyday.

It's worked for 9+ years as the site has grown from 1 guy to tens of thousands. Not everyone can be happy all the time, but Rob manages to keep 99%+ that way 99% of the time, and that's not a bad track record.

At the same time, this is his lively hood. He has to make sure that there's a balance between members and sponsors. I think he manages that pretty damn well too.

Last but not least. You have a site where you can express your contrary position, at least until you cross the line and break a rule. This is the least arbitrary site I visit when it comes to that. Folks don't get banned for disagreeing with the populist point of view. They get banned for pushing a rule past its limit.

Rob a dictator? Nah, not even close. Passionate? You betcha.

DM