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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Steve355F1, Oct 23, 2014.

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  1. alexm

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  2. VMax

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    Question for any pilots. From AVHerald comes this:
    So... I read that and thought "They departed 17L, went to turn 155 and didn't think anything in particular of turning right?". Of course, it's easy to pick up on a problem sitting on my comfy couch reading a report that you know is going to talk about someone making a wrong turn. Reading the article again now, one of the commenters has more or less the same (unanswered as I post this) question as I do - is that something you'd normally expect to just automatically flag up in your brain as a "this feels odd" kind of thing? Or are you simply too busy to notice at that point (assuming you've no other reason to question things)? Perhaps it's a matter similar to that mentioned in the other thread, where someone who's been and done it all would notice, but someone used to following the systems and procedures would just carry on as normal?
     
  3. Steve355F1

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    The short answer is that it should be obvious to any pilot that the departure required a left turn (which was the SID). Especially if there is an aircraft departing the parallel runway on your right.
    Why anyone would begin a right turn in that situation is completely beyond me. That is the disturbing part, and IMO it's another example of someone trained like a parrot, rather than using the ability to think logically and realise that a right turn in that situation could not possibly be "right".
     
  4. VMax

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    Thanks! :)
     
  5. islerodreaming

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    It all becomes clear: they are doing tactical flight training. Upset some locals with some low fast runs over Brisbane during the week.

    John
     
  6. VMax

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    Lucky Brisbane b*stards ;) Any C-17 pilots want to come fly over my house? I'll wave as you go by :)
     
  7. VMax

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    I know this is the *Aussie* aircraft thread, but hey, we get a lot of Emirates A380s, and this is pretty amazing (and pretty widespread for the past 12 hours, so sorry to anyone that's seen it already).
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VPvKl6ezyc[/ame]
    I don't know what the required separation between a superheavy and a...couple of guys... is, but I bet it's further than that ;)
     
  8. moretti

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    They obviously missed "last call" page :p
     
  9. VMax

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    Haha ;)

    Here's some behind-the-scenes footage, showing a little of the presumably very, very, very extensive planning efforts:
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFCQJ5sYGtI[/ame]

    And here's a map of the A380's flight (presumably jetpacks do not carry ADS-B transmitters...) and, if you click the graph-looking button under the bottom right hand corner of the map, a speed and altitude graph. Unsurprisingly, the A380 was going sloooooowly.
     
  10. alexm

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  11. I16

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    That was just in time I hope !!
     
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  13. VMax

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    Mostly for Steve - remember that U-2 cockpit pic you posted (something like this)? I asked an ex-Blackbird pilot in a Reddit AMA and he guessed it was something to do with speed, but then someone currently flying U-2s showed up. He said it's AoA, as you originally guessed. Another post (by someone else - there were a few people discussing it) said the AoA tape is in generic units, and reaching 1 = stall. I assume that means those units are dynamic also. Just in case you're still interested!
     
  14. Steve355F1

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    Ah, that's great info, Mike.

    Thanks!
     
  15. Steve355F1

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    #765 Steve355F1, Dec 5, 2015
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    Flew over the area of last weeks fires today and took some pics of how it looks now.

    A fairly large area burnt out, with several small towns and farms being miraculously saved.

    It appears that it got within a few hundred metres of the Mallala circuit, too.
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  16. Steve355F1

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    Coincidentally a few hours later I was at Port Lincoln airport when the fire bombers took off and did some practice runs.

    https://youtu.be/BnNBGytF6kU
     
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  18. moretti

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  19. I16

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    That's why the winners were flying "vamps"
     
  20. VMax

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    Love those Vampires so much :D

    The American commentator sounds a lot like Mike Mangold, who was sadly killed just a couple of weeks ago in his L-39 Albatros :(
     
  21. moretti

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    :eek:
     
  22. VMax

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  23. VMax

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    #773 VMax, Jan 11, 2016
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    QF63 from Sydney to Johannesburg had to make a tech stop in Perth on Wednesday last week due to a particularly overweight passenger. Arrival and departure videos (arrival seemingly shot with a camera that's been dropped in one too many puddles of oil) in the Twitter links. Pic attached is mine, taken with a decent camera that was still only worth about 5% of what most of the others there were ;)
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfA3I_cALs[/ame]

    Arrival: http://twitter.com/PerthAirport/status/684660315414343680
    Departure: http://twitter.com/thatjohn/status/684680650767478784
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  24. IanB

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    very interesting, thanks for posting.

    I was stranded in Thailand one time on a BA flight, while they flew another engine out from the UK, on a regular London/Sydney plane. I always assumed it was in the hold.

    Seems it was cheaper to put 350 people in a hotel for 2 nights at our inconvenience, rather than rebook us onto other airlines.... Have I mentioned how much I hate BA?
     
  25. moretti

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    I wonder if fitting a cone to the front of the engine would drop the drag to allow less fuel ?

    In saying that the F-111s had additional drops tanks that actually made so much drag it was pointless putting them on
     

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