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AustrianGP 2020 Pre-Race thread

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  1. absostone

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    For me its Hamilton and F1 jumping on the this matters and that matters band wagon. Makes me sick. I dont see how people are being held back. And why do we need to know about anyone elses pride ion F1. So what, Lets race and keep your crap to yourself. I Dont see how HAM has been held back. Hes about to surpass MS.
     
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  2. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Verstappen has won the past two Austrian Grands Prix, and Red Bull's car has always been competitive in Hungary. So the Dutchman has what would appear to be a very strong chance of taking the fight to Hamilton as the year gets under way, even if the lack of fans at races means he won't be serenaded by his army of orange-clad fans this time.

    Red Bull's competitiveness at their own circuit is partly caused by the fact that the track is located at an altitude of 800m, which appears to favour the Honda engine compared with the Mercedes.

    This, engine boffins at the teams say, is down to how each manufacturer has chosen to design and run its turbo. Mercedes is believed to run its turbo and compressor at the regulation maximum 125,000rpm limit more often than Honda. This gives optimum efficiency most of the time.

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    But at altitude the turbo and compressor have to work harder to compensate for the lack of oxygen in the atmosphere if the engine is to produce the same power.

    If the turbo is already running usually at maximum revs, there is no headroom to increase its speed to compensate for altitude, and the engine becomes what is known as 'saturated'. By contrast, an engine that is optimised to run less often at maximum turbo revs can speed up its turbo and compressor to compensate, reducing the performance differential between the two.

    This effect is most pronounced in Mexico City, where the track is at 2,000m, but also applies in Austria and Brazil - all three are races where the Honda and Renault engines have appeared in the past few seasons to take a step forward in competitiveness compared with Mercedes.

    Nevertheless, it would be a bold move to predict that Mercedes will struggle for competitiveness in Austria.

    For one thing, that was 2018 and 2019 - it is not known whether the design of the respective engines has changed in this respect over the winter.

    Secondly, Mercedes' struggles in Austria in the past two seasons have had two very specific causes.

    In 2018, Hamilton and team-mate Valtteri Bottas were running one-two before both retired with hydraulic system failures.

    And in 2019, the team had made a mistake on its cooling package at the design stage, which could not be sufficiently fixed during the season. This meant the car ran too hot when the ambient temperature was above a certain level. Race day in Austria was over 30C, so the engine had to be run detuned.

    There is no reason to believe that either of these handicaps will apply in 2020.
     
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  3. paulchua

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    Understood, we're keeping P&R in P&R, do feel free to post all your thoughts there. Much thanks @absostone Enjoy the race.
     
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  4. Nembo1777

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    #279 Nembo1777, Jul 3, 2020
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    Actually not that it is important to me, I am 1000% a Ferrari and its drivers suporter but FYI he has had that 'And still we rise" motto for years, it is not related to recent events it is about rising from defeat to beat adversity and win. That he would add BLM is I guess predictable and for the record I wish politics and current events would not intrude upon the sport but such are the times we live in. Of course everyone is so much more informed of the news nowadays whereas in the 70's a top F1 journalist asked an F1 driver what he thought of (new US President) Jimmy Carter and the driver answered: What team does he drive for? :rolleyes::D Just a little ignorant.

    Anyway never mind liveries etc is practice shown in live streaming? Let's go!
     
  5. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Which motto?
     
  6. Nembo1777

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    Re-read my post.
     
  7. Isobel

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    Hoping the Mercs rise many times throughout practice, quali and the race.
     
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  8. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    One positive thing , we don't need to suffer the likes of Bieber hanging around on the grid ...still miss the GG though;)
     
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  9. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The "Still We Rise" motto just changed this year(2020).

    Before the motto was "Still I Rise"....which has a singular connotation.

    The "Still We Rise" motto now has either a team connotation or a BLM connotation or both since the team are now "Black Arrows" along with the BLM movement.

    But yes, I agree with you when it comes to P&R matters regarding these issues that are currently going on in the world today.
     
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  10. DGS

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    Merc: Black Cars Matter? :p
     
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  11. absostone

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    Sorry guys I’ll tone it done here
     
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  12. Remy Zero

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    Dunno, but this whole thing is complete crap and nonsense, imo.
     
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