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Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Chelle, Sep 12, 2004.

  1. Chelle

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  2. judge4re

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    If its >25 years old, pay duty and its all yours. Run the VIN through interpol if you are looking at any foreign cars, some were stolen and Japan doesn't pay much attention to cars that were stolen outside of Japan.
     
  3. bert308

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    The seller posted about it here: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30663
    In that thread he wants 250000, according to his negative feedback on ebay he had the car up 2 times before with a buy it now 38000, but refused to sell for that amount...
     
  4. F SPIDER

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    12653 cannot be 1971, since my Daytona from 1971 is number 14771
     
  5. Chelle

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    I remember seeing a blue one in japan up on ebay a few times... rough and rusty - this seems to have a lot more potential..though certainly not for $250,000 what's with the sudden increase in exotics in japan becoming available? I know of at least 10 others that only recently have surfaced (mostly from my other hobby, lambo's)
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  6. jsa330

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    Check the very recent negative feedback in regard to this car.
     
  7. teak360

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    That was a different car, although it was supposedly in Japan too.
     
  8. wax

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    Good point.

    365 GTB/4 Daytona | 68-74 | 12301 - 17615 | 1383 built.
     
  9. Peter

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    I don't know if its just me, but not only is that photo of the S/N plate upside down, but it also looks like a mirror image of it too... Strange... Anybody else see this?
     
  10. sjvalin

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    I thought there were only a handful of alloy bodied Daytonas made, and they were of the competition type. Did they make any known alloy bodied road cars? This one looks like it has the pop-up headlights, too, which makes an alloy body seem unlikely.
     
  11. amenasce

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    If its true , what a sweet project... too bad its in "good"shape.

    I would love to find a daytona to restore to Comp spec !
     
  12. Exoticbro

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    I can't tell for sure, but are the paint cans and the box in the side view marked in english?
    That seems odd since the car is in Japan.
    Can anyone tell?
     
  13. El Wayne

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    There's Japanese text on the Pedigree dog food bag. It's in Japan.
     
  14. Exoticbro

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    I see what you are saying, the pix are not the best.
    What do you think of the present bid of $47,650?
     
  15. El Wayne

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    I would buy it at that price, however, I'm willing to bet the seller won't let it go for that amount. He obviously doesn't know how to place a reserve on his auctions and has had to piss-back twice on the other Daytona after the auctions had already closed. He's posted this car for sale here on F-Chat for $250K already.
     
  16. Erich

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    I think the car is a looooooooooooooooong way away from you to plunk down that sort of change.

    Round trip airfare to Japan, ___________
    Cost of Large assistant name Guido or Vinny ___________
    Shipping costs of car to US. ___________

    You fill in the blanks and see if it still makes financial sense.

    Erich
     
  17. El Wayne

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    If the car is complete and as-described, it's well worth the price. Do you have any idea how many standard road-going Daytonas were built with alloy bodies?

    According to Hil Raab's serial number book, the following 365 GTB/4s were bodied in alloy:

    12547 ("LE MANS" -- Chinetti)

    12653 (Conti)

    14407 ("COMP" -- Pozzi)
    14429 ("COMP" -- Mariani)
    14437 ("COMP" -- Filipinetti)
    14885 ("COMP" -- Chinetti)
    14889 ("COMP" -- Chinetti)

    15225 ("COMP STREET" -- Filipinetti)*
    15373 ("COMP STREET" -- Swaters)*
    15667 ("COMP STREET" -- Pozzi)*
    15681 ("COMP STREET" -- Hoare)*
    15685 ("COMP STREET" --Chinetti)*

    Hmm, one of these kind of stands out, doesn't it?

    *[Edit: I've been corrected. Though Hil Raab listed those last five cars as "AL," they are apparently not alloy-bodied, making 12653 all the more rare.]
     
  18. Erich

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    Big word IF.

    I imagine I have more fingers than there are alloy road going Daytonas. BUT, how do you know it is complete and as described?

    Personal inspection while accompanied by a very large bodyguard would be the only way to go.

    Erich
     
  19. Exoticbro

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    It does seem like the pieces are fitting a puzzle.

    Wayne, I guess you have no previous history on this Daytona?
     
  20. El Wayne

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    Originally destined for Luciano Conti, founder and pulisher of Autosprint magazine in Italy. As of 1989, the car was reportedly located in Japan and had been with the same owner for at least 10 years. That's it.
     
  21. Gatarz

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    If that is the Conti car and it is complete, I'll pay $100k. Now where did I put my check book?

    It is odd to me that someone with that car would put it up on eBay with terrible pics when it could be consigned to a major auction house, cleaned up a bit and bring much more money. D'oh!
     
  22. LetsJet

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    Judging by the posts, this is clearly a garage find. But, what neglect for such a nice car.
     
  23. stevetr

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    I've got to say, this find fascinates me but with the bidding at over $100k, and at least $60k to do a decent restoration (assuming the engine needs a rebuild) the price is climbing fast. It may be a VERY rare aluminium bodied car but there's no competition history. What would others think the value might be for this car (assuming it's as described) once restored?

    Steve
     
  24. El Wayne

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    Not sure but the high bidder is Bill Noon of Symbolic. Bill's not going to overpay.
     
  25. stevetr

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    Yes, I noticed that. And still 4 days to run on the auction...
     

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