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Best Aftermarket Exhaust System for California T?

Discussion in 'California/Portofino' started by MKM1, Sep 14, 2017.

  1. MKM1

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    Greetings FerrariChat!

    I own a 2016 Ferrari California T Handling Speciale (HS). I've been on the look for an aftermarket exhaust system to fit in my car. The current exhaust system is good, yet it doesn't really do justice to the car's wonderful turbo charged engine. I prefer the exhaust to be very loud when valves are completely opened. I'm well aware of Capristo's offering as I have recently fitted their titanium package in my audi r8 v10.

    What do you guys recommend?
    - Capristo
    - Novitec Rosso
    - Fabspeed
    - Fi Exhaust
    - Anything Else?
     
  2. tomc

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    Mario (MDEL) had Capristo on his Cali and loved it. As I recall, it could be turned on and off with a remote...T
     
  3. Fabspeed Motorsport

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    The ECU tune is where all the fun is at - it kicked ours up to 488 territory :)
     
  4. jumpinjohn

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    Please illuminate us...

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  5. Joe@Fabspeed

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    Travis can elaborate on an ECU tune. Basically Ferrari spa uses the same engine in the California turbo and 488..........Ferrari drastically restrained the power curves of the California Turbo to make it feel energetic but restrained in acceleration so it does feel too fast during acceleration and then have a burst of hard acceleration at the high end. You all likely read this in the car magazines when Ferrari actually mentioned limiting boost and power across the low and middle RPM bands.
    I would recommend a Fabspeed rear X pipe and rear muffler bypass pipes with an ECU tune for any and all Ferrari California Turbos. You will have great sports car sound and real 488 style power that is shockingly good in the California.
    Check out Fabspeed Motorsport website for Video explanations and dyno details.
     
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  6. MKM1

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    Hello Joe!

    Thanks for the much needed feedback! I want to inform you that I've went for the capristo offering for the Cali T and the sound is surprisingly great after replacing the original mufflers. However, I still want to purchase the x-pipe! Would the fabspeed x-pipe replacement go with the capristo mufflers? and would I need to tune the car for that?

    Regards,
    MK
     
  7. Carnut

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    My T is in storage till April and I am starting to look at possibly adding an exhaust. It sounds a bit tame as it is. I was curious to see what other owners have gone with.
     
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  9. Carnut

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    Thanks Tom, I will consider your product, and you are not far from me.
     
  10. ttforcefed

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    novitec is the answer for all 2010+ ferraris
     
  11. Carnut

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    Well it seems I always manage to find (or this time it found me) a deal. I guess when you have bought so many cars from all over the country people contact me about stuff. This time it was a Capristo exhaust, remote, and a piggy back tuning box, all for 3K delivered. I have a lot of experience over the years with piggy backs, and I have never had issues with them. In my 4C I had a 2nd turned ECU and a piggy back, there was no difference in performance. I will not be able to comment on the products until after the car comes out of storage, but Joe is correct there is a lot more in these cars than the factory allowed it to have.
     
  12. SB27

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    Let us know when your car is out of storage and what was the result of the work you did. Thanks.
     
  13. SB27

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    Bump.

    Curious how this setup (Novitec Piggyback, right?) is working for you now that it is out of storage.

    Installing the Capristo today and will report back on that.
     
  14. 4th_gear

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    Be careful after ECU tunes (or any significant power bumps) because such increases in HP and torque, especially at the low end, can and will throw off your traction control system - potentially make you vulnerable to losing traction when you are not expecting, based on your experience with your car before the ECU tune.

    Enjoy the power bump but watch out for unexpected oversteer, take it easy at first to relearn the behaviour of your "renewed" car.
     
  15. Il Co-Pilota

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    Might want to consider a pair of 200 cell cats. I personally think the Capristo is the nicest sounding setup, as it's very natural sounding. The x pipe will smooth out the sound a bit, and also remove droning. Sport cats will add some volume as well as a bit of raw raspyness.
    200 cell cats
    Fabspeed X pipe
    Capristo rear section
    Piggyback engine tune

    That's a winner that will go from mild to wild at the flick of a switch.
     
  16. KarlA69

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    A question about sports cats... I have the Portofino with Capristo exhausts. It sounds a bit louder than stock (especially with valves open) but still not a great sound... kind of harsh and raspy but not a beautiful Ferrari sound. I appreciate that’s difficult to achieve with a turbo engine.

    I’m considering adding sports cats (100 or 200 cell) from Capristo. Do people think that would make a decent difference to the sound? Also, any real world power gains?

    Thanks
     
  17. Il Co-Pilota

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    If you don't already have one, see if Capristo, Novitec or Fabspeed makes an X pipe. That will smooth out the sound. Cats will add some high pitch sound, but it will stay raspy and raw.
    That being said, that raspy raw sound is more natural than the artificial sound n/a v8 Ferraris had in their last years.
    On a different note. Stay with 200 cell cats. The smell and fumes in the car will be significant with test pipes and to an extent 100 cell cats.
     
  18. Redneck Slim

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    Can the cats on the PF and Cal T be changed without engine removal?
     
  19. KarlA69

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    Yes! Easily. I was quoted £600 for the labour to change cats. If you know what you’re doing you could probably do yourself
     
  20. KarlA69

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    Thanks for tips about the x pipe... I think I’ll do the sports cats and see how that sounds first. I will have already spent about £10k on the exhaust at that point... maybe time to give up and buy an F12?! Haha
     
  21. Il Co-Pilota

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    No. Uou do not need to remove the engine:)
     
  22. Carnut

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    I have had sometime with the T with the exhaust and the piggyback, had some issues with forgetting to turn the box off before turning the ignition off. You will get a lot of codes even the nav screen turned off. These are really touchy cars, and I over almost 5 decades I have done mods to a lot of cars but messing with these things is not for the faint of heart (which to say the opposite of me who is lets see what happens here so what if it blows up). I think the capristo made a slight improvement (though the T is still my quietest summer car), I am sure the cats and x pipe would make it sound even better but I am happy with it now. I was at Algar yesterday and coming soon a 458 so I will have a Ferrari that sounds good. Not everyone has my attitude towards cars or knows what I do, or has a dealer 10 minutes away who has an almost 25 year relationship with. I have known some of the tuners a long time and I would not have anything bad to say about them (at least the ones who are sponsors on here), but like I said these cars are touchy and even stock they throw unneeded codes so my advice would be if you don't know what you are doing make sure there is someone close enough to you that does. Your probably going to need them.
     
  23. Rule12b

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    I'm curious to hear the Fi Exhaust on a Cali T. No one seems to have done it, but they look really nicely made. And I would never run a convertible without decent cats, at least 200 cell. The smell will get to you.
     

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