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Best F-1 Drivers Who Never Won Title

Discussion in 'F1' started by David Lind, May 10, 2012.

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  1. TifosiUSA

    TifosiUSA F1 Veteran

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    Elaborate please.
     
  2. 375+

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    Donahue? When? His most notable F1 success was his one-off drive in the McLaren M19. By the time he returned(1974) he was past his peak, perhaps a legacy of his CanAm testing accident.
     
  3. ricksb

    ricksb F1 Veteran

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    agree...integrity should count for something, even in competition. In some ways, Pironi contributed to Gilles' death.

    Regarding the list, for me it's Villeneuve, Moss and Cevert. There was a great article on Gilles in the April issue of 'Racer' regarding Gilles and his McLaren deal.
     
  4. Il Vecchio

    Il Vecchio F1 Rookie

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    Peter B.
    Jacky Ickx.
    Ronnie Peterson
    Tony Brooks
     
  5. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Launch and traction control when no team was supposed to have them. Plus MS then drove into Hill. At the time I did not consider this cheating but now in hindsight I do.

    Pete
     
  6. decardona

    decardona Formula 3

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    I know, I know. But, Donohue was Penske's guy, and if he wasn't killed in 75, I think Penskes F1 effort would have been better. Maybe I just think of his accomplishments and feel he could have been a real contender for the title.
     
  7. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    The world championship was not really around in Nouvalari's time... there was no real FIA at the time. he did win a lot of races and was a great driver. Had he lived much into the 1950's he would have been a great Champion - in stead Dr. Nino Farina was the first.
     
  8. Sellnit

    Sellnit Formula Junior

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    Collins and Von Trips. I am reading "the Limit" now and what a book it is. They men where real men. They drove to live, and lived to drive.
     
  9. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    #84 PSk, May 14, 2012
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    There was a championship, all that happened in 1950 is they labelled it Formula 1. Just like Bernie did not invent or save Formula 1 (*) there was a great series before Formula 1 ... and I encourage everybody to read a few books, etc. Oh and there were rules so the equivalent of the FIA ... read up about the Silver Arrows and you will find they came about because they were OVER weight and Mercedes scraped the paint off to get under the weight limit.

    BTW his name is simply "Nuvolari".
    Pete
    * - all he did was make it cost a fortune for us spectators to be involved by realising he could make $'s by making the players and teams off limit. TV station's televising of F1 would have matured to where we are today because they chase profits and if F1 was what people wanted to watch they would show it
     
  10. furoni

    furoni F1 World Champ

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    Any chance you can post that article on Gilles?
     
  11. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

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    I'm stunned that nobody has voted for Michael Andretti!
     
  12. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ

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    Really - he finished 3rd one time and left F-1 a dismal failure..... sad end to a great driver's career.
     
  13. 375+

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    Michael had great skill, speed and was a great in overtaking. He never possessed his father's indomitable will to succeed, to win. He was born into privilege unlike his dad. I think that he is a punk. His son Marco is worse.
     
  14. OhioMark

    OhioMark Formula Junior

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    I had the chance to meet Michael after his final race at the Cleveland GP, and unexpectantly he was a gentleman and very kind to my then 10 year old son.
    Regarding Marco, I'm 100% in agreement with you and if his last name wasn't
    Andretti, he'd still be driving in the minor leagues because he did nothing to
    deserve an Indy car drive etc.....



    Mark
     
  15. 375+

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    Mark,

    Appreciate your thoughtful response. I've met Michael on two occasions and he was less than cordial. Granted it could have something to do with the pressure cooker atmosphere at the race track. I have met Mario(a life long hero of mine) on many occasions and he has always been the consummate gentleman.

    BP
     
  16. robert_c

    robert_c F1 Rookie

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    JPM, but I'm only a recent student of F1.
     
  17. David Lind

    David Lind Formula 3

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    Rubens seems like a great guy, and he wins everywhere he goes. But he has never consistently beaten his team mate.
    I'm glad he's now racing in the US, and I'm cheering for him
     
  18. TurboFreak650

    TurboFreak650 Formula 3

    Jul 10, 2004
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    Eddie was too much of a playboy to put F1 at #1 all the time in his life the way most champions do. And now? Eddie takes pot shots from the beach whilst sipping drinks with umbrellas in them. Like an elderly armchair quarterback, only he's far from eldery. Just washed up. :eek:
     

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