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Boden Autohaus Charge Pipes ADD 80 HP and 40 FT-LB Torque to 488

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Patrick21x, Nov 16, 2017.

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  1. Patrick21x

    Patrick21x Karting

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    Thought I would share this. The stock 488 charge pipes seem to be a major weak link. Check out the ones BODEN AUTOHAUS just made for my 488.


     
  2. SH488

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    Is this along with a tune?

    Or does just replacing them add +80 HP, +40 ft/lbs?

    Those are very suspiciously impressive numbers!
     
  3. Patrick21x

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    The car used for all the development had been tuned already and had the Dyno sheets for what it was producing at that moment (Before charge pipes). After driving it for a month on that tune Boden then added these Charge Pipes which added an additional 80HP to the midrange. I may have miss worded. It is not 80HP on PEAK power, it raised it 80HP on the Midrange where we wantit most. Hope I explained it clearer now.
     
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  4. Solid State

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    Interesting that the plastic quality is reported poor given that the rest of the intake system is also plastic on the 488 including the red air boxes and the intake manifolds. Also weary of throwing around power numbers with forced induction engines and tunes. Often wonder how you can compare these motors car to car.
     
  5. Patrick21x

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    Here are the Dyno results. Same car, ONLY change was the new charge pipes.

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  6. lamborarijason

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    Very impressive!! May have to stop by Boden as my warehouse is only minutes away.
    I wonder how much gain will there be for a stock 488 without tune.
     
  7. Melvok

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    Do we not call those tubes simply straight pipes ? Ar the cat out as well ?
     
  8. SH488

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    Has this been revisited? Any updates on the development?
     
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  9. boobernackle

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    Don't waste your money, without a tune you'll get nothing but a placebo. A simple 488 tune without any hardware mod will yield similar results, but you'll lose the NA "feel" for the car as Ferrari purposely limited the turbo boost at lower gears/RPMs.
     
  10. Caeruleus11

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    And that is what I'm wondering about regarding the torque numbers. Does this tune change the factory variable torque in each gear? Or are you testing in 7th?
     
  11. FerrariFab

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    Very cool video. bu those pipes are 6061 as 7075 isnt weldable.
     
  12. SH488

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    I just wish there was an easier way to flash a tune onto the ECU and then flash back whenever i wanted to. I greatly dislike piggyback systems.
     
  13. SVR

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  14. Solid State

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    If I'm understanding this correctly, these are plastic intake tubes versus the metal exhaust tubes I think you are talking about.
     
  15. tekaefixe

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    Come on man, this is like a click bait add or what? You should correct the title, you add JS without a tune.
     
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  16. INTMD8

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    Must be with a tune.

    These tubes alone would pick up closer to zero horsepower.
     
  17. Fabspeed Motorsport

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    we actually make a set as well, ours don't pick up 80hp haha, but they do see more than zero (15-20hp on a bone stock 2018 488)
     
  18. Melvok

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    200 Cel David ? Or …. ?
     
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  20. Solid State

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    I don't know. Somehow I don't see Ferrari making a big mistake here. Everything engine related has its purpose. Maybe compare to the Pista pipes.
     
  21. INTMD8

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    Just being honest, I would have to test that myself to believe it.

    Not seeing anything there on that short of a run on the pressure side that would create any measurable pressure drop/restriction. Not to mention the heat they would pick up vs composite.
     
  22. wrs

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    Good point because plastic is an insulator whereas aluminum is a conductor. By that point the air has been through the intercoolers and should be substantially cooler than ambient inside the engine bay. Hence, that hot engine bay is going to cause convection heating of the aluminum which will in turn re-heat the injected air and drop horsepower accordingly. Not sure I would want them at the track on a hot day. If it's cold out maybe but even then, the engine bay is damn hot.
     
  23. SVR

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    Please, explain to us, what is the physics of the extra HP addition process?
    And what about heating?
     

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