C8 Z06

Yes. I believe you have to have the CC brakes.

 

My understanding is the cf wheels are a standalone option, but maybe it’s only an option on the z07?

For me it’s steel brakes high downforce aero and competition seats. That means no z07. Although maybe the uocharge for z07 is less tha. Adding the relevant bits to a z06, let’s see.

In the unlikely event the standard zo6 does not have springs to support the aero I’m pretty sure the aftermarket will. Carbon brakes are a no no for serious track work and the cf wheels while sounding nice are a huge expense and in my experience the aftermarket will offer really light forged wheels for track guys in sizes that fit the steel rotors and work with available rubber .

I’m pretty sure we’ll be able to buy forged track wheels as light or close to as light as the cf wheels. Any street whel even a cf one has lots of weight built in for durability on things like sidewalks that are not a co operation for track.

yes light wheels are a major upgrade for any car on track, presupposing one can drove the car to its linit I’m the first place.

One of the things that seems so appealing in the zo6 is one can order it any number of ways depending on personal preferences and intended use.
It does not look like one is forced into bundles of stuff you do t wnat just to get the bits you do.

 

I love CCBs for a few reasons but chief among them is lack of brake dust. I’ll drive the Z06 90% of miles on the street. It might see 2-3 track days a year. Maybe 50-100 miles during those days. The CCBs will be fine.

At my track days at Pitt Race it’s a small group. The exotic cars just bomb it down the straights and push through the corners but you don’t brake late often to save the brakes.

The dedicated race cars push for lap times.

 

Well I’ll be your Guinea pig with the ccb and track life. It will take until mid 2023 to know though, as even if I get a early car late summer I won’t get 15+ events in aug and sept here in Michigan. I suspect the rotors might last 50-70 events or more with oem carbon pads, and if pads last 12-15+ events then it’s not that more more pad $ than aftermarket.The carbon rotors are the big expense.

Regardless, if after 4 events my pads look like they are 1/2 thickness then I’ll probably take off the carbon rotors and pads and save for the future buyer 8yrs later and put some traditional race brakes on.

 

Btw, I don’t think anyone had an answer before, but what is the longest extended warranty GM will sell on the c8?

 

You can get one. I opted out as I figured to sell within 2 years. I think its like 3 more years.

Not sure if there are any "tracking" restrictions. Chevy has had a problem with Z06's in the past.

 

The CF wheels have a special ceramic coating in the barrel of the wheel that reflects heat away from the brake calipers and discs. Its needed when the car comes in after tracking and is sitting without airflow. CCB's I believe cool down faster so that may be why you can't get them with steel brakes.

Just guessing but it would not surprise me if that's the reason CF wheels are only for Z07 or only if you option CCB's.

 

Thanks. I didn't know any of that. Definitely changes the math. I don't want the wing, or the stiffer suspension, but if it's significantly penny wise pound foolish to try to a la carte these things, that'll bear out over time. Certainly going to be plenty of time to contemplate and play with the configurator.

 

Email blast from Mike Furman today says the guess of the Z06 MSRP is around 90K. I'm guessing -- he's a pretty good guesser given his being around the people who know.

 

I’m told to expect MSRP of $135-140k fully loaded with Carbon Wheels. It’s a steal if that holds.

 

Makes everything else look overpriced

 

Ill probably have to pay $30k over to the dealer but I’ll get $15k over for my C8 so all in all oh well.

 

Yah my guess for my spec is about $120-125K. Probably more but that's my guess.

 

Honestly, such a steal. You only go around once. This car is the last great NA V8 of our time. We’re fortunate to be able to grab one.

 

If you look at Mercedes, they have already said they are spending ZERO on new gas powered engines from now on. GM isn't very far from saying that. IMO its a miracle the Corvette team got this "moonshot" project through management -- but they did. And its going to make them a lot of money which is good news for us 2 seat sports car lovers.

 

All carbon revolution wheels (Gt350R, gt500, ford gt, Ferrari pista, ect) have the special coating (I think it’s a nasa patent actually used on space shuttles), at least on the front wheels. It’s just a protection for heat after a track session as your mention. The Shelby’s only have it on the front wheels bc the caliper is mm from the barrel. I think the pista gets it on all 4 cause “Ferrari” but it’s not needed with the extra air gap on rear wheels from rear calipers.

btw, after a handful of track days, the white coating turns quite black from brake dust and blends in and you would never know it’s there

 

Regarding “tracking restrictions” and warranties, ya that’s a touchy situation. I have a good story about it on my 350r wrt to a new transmission/clutch I’ll share when on desktop. To date, Chevy does NOT void warranty for OTD events and has one of the best (better than Porsche) warranty explicitly allowing basic track days on their track focused cars. Timed racing is a different story, but it’s a dance these warranties play around advertising a track car and then voiding a warranty if it’s tracked (by your or a prior owner). Lot of drama with the Shelby’s 350 and 500 when in 2020 manual says void on “abnormal stress” making the OTD days murky water, and prior to that the only exclusion was “racing or timed events” which OTD are Not.

I’ll check carefully when buying, and I don’t advertise track use, but it’s a bit obvious when records show tire changes after 1200 miles over and over.

 

wonder if most will purchase car outright or lease it to lessen risk getting burned by totally new engine tech for gm. i would take a 3 yrs lease to be safe like an insurance policy.

 

New engine tech? It’s the engine from the C8R race car that’s been developed for a few years now.

Leasing is a waste unless you have some tax advantage opportunity. You also agree to take a bath when 1-3 years out this thing could be worth similar or more than new purchase price.

 

Agreed which is why I compared leasing it to having insurance. Both waste money until you have trouble and then premium was worth the expense.

 

I don't think you can lease a C8, let alone a Z06.

 

Wow that's weird to me. I leased gt3 and gtr when they were peak craziness market. Dealers didn'tt care either way. Get money from bank or me so what's difference?

 

There’s still a pretty substantial difference between developing an engine for racing and one for the street.

 

The problem is the residual value. If they do it incorrectly, the banks get burned.

If they do the residual value depreciation to aggressively, its not competitive over just a conventional loan.

How many people have leased a new Ferrari from a dealer? Why doesn't everyone if it saves money?

 

Doesn't save money, it costs money. Ie. Last yr my audi rs5 was $90k buy or almost 2k/month lease. I bought it bc lease rate was awful but thats a reliable car. Z06 is risky engine so could be worth it even if 100k to buy and well over 2k/month lease. just an idea but moot point if dealers wont lease it