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Can we still win this year?

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  1. Dilusha

    Dilusha Formula Junior

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    I think we have the best car, but not the best people. So, no. :(
     
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  2. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It's not over yet, but MB has a better #1 driver and a better pit wall.
     
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  3. daytona355

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    It’s our pit wall, the strategists haven’t the first clue how to win, they’ve been losers so long they forgot how to race. They have to get their act together. See my post on the subject in my thread. There is hope!


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  4. tifoso2728

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    It seems like not only does it take the fastest car, it takes a bit of luck.
     
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  5. classic308

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    Of course we can still win. Hammy/MB is mentally weak when things don’t go their way. Need to beat them in the first 2 races after the break. Need to beat the FIA too as Wanker Whiting is a complete tool. He said it was a racing incident yesterday between Bottas and Vettel (even if Vettel had suffered damage) which is ridiculous. No problem giving Kimi a penalty at Silverstone though....the man is a complete idiot and should have been fired after Japan 2007-screwed Ferrari there too.
     
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  6. tifoso2728

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    I think our #1 is just as good. I will agree with you 100% about the pit wall.

    Geez . . . . Is this what we'll be doing for the next 4 weeks?
     
  7. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Couldn't agree more.

    Hamilton is simply better than Vettel. Didn't think that until this year where the wheels are coming off the Vettel wagon. He has cracked too many times and will ultimately cost Ferrari the title.

    Bummer. We had the best driver for a while with Alonso but not a great car. Now we do but still can't win. A long-past-his-prime Kimi manages to outqualify Seb speaks volumes.
     
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  8. absostone

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    I was in Maranello this past week on Wednesday , some workers were breaking for lunch and coming out of the factory. As one walked towards me I said in Italian "What the hell are they doing for strategy?" He shook his head frowned and smirked and said " who the hell knows!"
     
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  9. Phil~

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    It's only halfway, anything can happen.
     
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  10. SimCity3

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    Ferrari can win, but it will be easier when Lewis doesn't start from pole.
    Anything is possible especially when Max remains in the mix with elbows out
     
  11. crinoid

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  12. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Of course we can still win this year, alot of races still to go.
     
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  13. Ryan...

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    Years of watching the NFL, NBA, UFC, MotoGp, and basically any other sport has told me this; the season isn't over until it's over!

    There's a lot of racing left to do here folks, and unless the Ferrari camp decides to literally pack up their car and go home this is far from over.
     
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  14. Mitch Alsup

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    At the end of the year, it will all be determined by who is taking grid penalties.
    It may eve be determined by who is taking larger grid penalties than the other.
     
  15. TifosiUSA

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    Yes but we need to win the next 3 races in a row.

    Afraid Seb really blew it at Hockenheim. As much as I like him, he makes too many mistakes. I think Kimi is the smarter driver but he doesn't have the speed anymore to be a true WDC contender.
     
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  16. TifosiUSA

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    If we still had Alonso we probably would have won the 2017 title and the 2018 title would be a lock right now. Even back in his Red Bull days Seb was erratic and error prone despite his immense speed and it allowed Alonso to take 2 championships to the wire in 2010 and 2012 in a far inferior car. FA would have killed to drive something as good as the 2017 and 2018 Ferraris.
     
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  17. TifosiUSA

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    Whiting sucks. Bottas misjudges his braking and slams into Vettel then does the same to Ricciardo. NO penalty. LH cuts pit lane, NO penalty. Max runs into Kimi in Austria, NO penalty. Kimi cuts pit late in Baku 2017...5 sec penalty. Kimi touches Hamilton, 10 second penalty.

    It's a joke.
     
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  18. Tifosi Ferrari

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    Actually 2 races as Ham is only 24 points ahead. Seb needs to win 2 in a row to be back of Ham of just 2 points. He still has a great chance left in this race.
     
  19. Tifosi Ferrari

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    It's going to be who is not only who is faster, but who is going to be making less mistakes dnf, team, or driver for this half that determines it.
     
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  20. Tifosi Ferrari

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    RB had some dnfs and Ferrari nearly had non in camparsion that era. I really think that if this structure was used when FA was around he would been happy as go lucky to have such a chance to win the wdc with cars of that calibre. He has definitely regeting the choice he had choice to be with McClaren 2nd time IMO he must be so anger with himself
     
  21. Jeronimo GTO

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    But Nando is toxic...
     
  22. Jeronimo GTO

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    Exactly.
     
  23. TifosiUSA

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    No, actually he needs to run 4 in a row if LH claims 2nd at each to get the lead back.
     
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  24. tifosi12

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    Of course the season has many races left and a DNF from Hamilton would change things.

    My point is that Hungaroring should have been Ferrari's race to win and they didn't. I fully expect Hamilton to win Spa and Monza.

    If you don't win where you have allegedly an advantage then how can you win where you have disadvantage?

    And of course Baku and Hockenheim will come back to haunt Seb. If Enzo were still around we might already have a Kimi/Leclerc team right now.
     
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  25. TifosiUSA

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    I don't think we are at a disadvantage at Monza/Spa but I don't trust this team to have a good run of mistake free races. The crew bungles things all the time and Merc always seems a step ahead. When was the last major unforced error from Hamilton you can think of?
     
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