Already shared in the 'how many steel 76 cars' thread, but what the heck - I'll give it its own thread. Here are a few photos of chassis number 19367, which I believe is the very first steel-bodied 308 GTB. The car is now sitting in our premises at Brands Hatch, Kent (UK). If anyone has any information about this car, relating to any of the countries mentioned(!), then I would love to hear from you here. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Archive records show this car was originally Argento 101C over Rosso VM3171. At some point it has been repainted in Rosso Corsa and the seats replaced with black QV spec items. Original delivery was to Hong Kong in July 1976. Dry sump; Engine number 240. The dealer sticker in the rear window is from Viglietti (South Africa?). As far as I know, the car was in Hong Kong for at least the first decade of its life. In more recent years it has been in Australia. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'm shocked Ferrari would produce a RHD car before a LHD car. Seems odd to me as LHD was the predominant part of their market. Are you speaking of the earliest serial numbered steel 308GTB or is their documentation showing this was the first car produced. Not that I really care, just think it is odd it did not go to an Italian local.
I know about this 308 with the surprisingly low serial number for a steel car for a while. But I am still wondering if Scaglietti already was able (i.e. had the pressing devices) to build a steel body for a 308 GTB as early as July 1976. In my opinion, we can only speculate if the car was delivered wth this body or has received it later in it's life, for whatever reason. I have no idea... Robert The Ferrari 308 GTB Register
Actually those seats are not unique to the QV. They were introduced when the injected series began in 1980
If it was a brand new model, I'd be inclined to agree. But given that this was a switch from fibreglass to steel for pragmatic reasons, I'm not so sure. This was a production line change that - as far as I'm aware - wasn't widely promoted at the time. A body made of a different material is a significant change, but conceptually at least, I'm not so sure it's any different to a mid-life production change for any other model. For example (and I don't believe that this is the case), would we be as surprised if the first M-Series Dino 246 turned out to be RHD? My hunch is, we wouldn't.
Certainly something we're considering. Clearly we don't believe this is some sort of unicorn - just an interesting car given apparent status of first steel GTB. I'd like to find someone equally interested to buy it, who wants to put the car back to correct specs and investigate the history.
It always makes me wonder why Ferrari made the fibreglass version in the first place. And why they changed it back to steel. I've never been able to find a definite answer. Anyone?
The common opinion is that there would be too much flex in the fibreglass body and the targa top would be popping off. Paul
I think I've seen three or four different explanations all claiming to be the 'correct' one. The most logical - IMPO, and as you say - does seem to be that they decided they couldn't make the GTS from fibreglass, so from a financial POV, they switched both models to steel. The timing fits as well. I don't think I've ever seen definitive evidence of any explanation, but I learn things all the time, so no doubt this may be well documented in a Ferrari book I've yet to read.
I've long understood that the plastic 308s were rushed out as a stop gap following very disappointing GT4 sales. It was never intended as a long term solution and the switch to steel started as soon as the new model had proved itself in the marketplace and the tooling was ready.
Revieving an old thread, chassis 19367 was sold on May 15, 2006 in Sydney, Australia at the Shannons Sydney Classic Auction -price was $50 000 AUD. Was NSW Registration WLC 207. Had at least 3 owners in Australia . Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I hade a LATE 1976 production car, an early North American version #20405. So this is an interesting thread, they were definitely "close to starting production" in the Spring of that year certainly.
I have 20817, North American steel. Door plate stamped January 77. Supposedly was part of the first dozen shipped to US. That would put it in that build time frame, so I bet you are right BigTex Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I have #20783 also with a January 1977 door plate but have seen US steel cars dating back to August 1976 meaning that many more than a dozen steel cars came in before mine.
Italian book keeping during that era is interesting. I’m sure there were some steel cars prior to mine, not sure where they all shipped. Nuvolari, what date is stamped on your owners booklet, ie when did the owner take possession? I would love to find all the January 77 cars. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I have a December '76 production date US GTB Steel # 20583 I assumed it was one of the earliest North American steel cars....
If you are really interested in this, you need to contact TripleBlack. He has all the numbers. He set me straight about my car.
I do not have the in service date for my car readily available (documents are currently in storage) but it is interesting to note that I have spent a great deal of time with #20621 and despite showing a door plate date of December 1976 (vs Jan 77 for #20783) EVERYTHING about that car indicates that it was built AFTER mine. Firstly my car shows an assembly sequence number of 96A while #20621 shows a number in the 100's. Secondly every casting on my car has a 76 on it while #20621 shows 77 on all of its castings.