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Discussion in '308/328' started by 76Steel, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. 76Steel

    76Steel Formula 3

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    Hey everyone:

    Had a nice drive in Jersey today - the weather finally cleared up a bit.

    Have a question:

    When changing gears - do you push the clutch all the way in?? (As to not to slide the clutch and perhaps preserve it a bit?)
    I started driving like this recently and like the response - wonder what others think.

    Many thanks!
    Mike.
     
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  3. rolindsay

    rolindsay Formula 3

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    I drive both my F-cars just like any other manual gearbox cars. I do enjoy practicing my rev-matching though.
     
  4. stratos

    stratos Formula Junior

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    By not pressing the clutch all the way you're using the synchros, forks and synchro carriers way too much. Watch it, the gearbox is not designed to work like that. Switch to dog gears and don't touch the clutch anymore.
     
  5. 76Steel

    76Steel Formula 3

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    #4 76Steel, Jun 23, 2009
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    soo ........... clutch all the way then? On my other previous manual cars - I never did the all the way in way and my clutch lasted - yes - 85K miles. Just did it nice and smooth way.

    However, on Lambo boards many guys recomended all the way in way and it got me thinking. (I know I've been lurking ... been falling in love with the Diablo. What is wrong me with, please - anyone????)

    Well as always more expert info is much appreciated.
     
  6. rolindsay

    rolindsay Formula 3

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    The point made earlier is that by not fully disengaging the clutch you are slipping the clutch surfaces, albeit under a light load, and making the gearbox do all the work of meshing the gears. Your point about the chutch lasting is irrelevent with regard to the issue stated above. The questions really is: How long will the synchros last if shifted this way? So my question becomes: Why would one drive this way anyway? There is no advantage. Please forgive if I sound insulting. Such is not the case. I just don't understand WHY this method - but I do understand trashed synchros.

    -rick
     
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  8. mike996

    mike996 F1 Veteran

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    Not depressing the pedal/disengaging the clutch completely increases wear on the clutch and wear on the gearbox. There is no advantage to it as far as the components are concerned, only disadvantage. What you are doing by not completely disengaging the clutch is essentially powershifting but since the whole point of powershifting is that it is done at WOT for maximum acceleration, doing it at any other time does nothing but increase wear for no reason.
     
  9. 76Steel

    76Steel Formula 3

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    Cool - thanks. No offence taken. Just learning.
     
  10. rolindsay

    rolindsay Formula 3

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    ...as we all are. Thanks. -rick
     

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