David Piper restores the Talacrest P4

David Piper clearly has more experience on his CV for re-bodying genuine Ferrari P4s and P412s than anyone else. There must have been a reason Pierre Bardinon used and instructed David Piper to rebody 0860 rather than have gone to Allegretti direct.

 

Ditto.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142324937-post613.html

 

Funny Stuff Tom.

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142325067-post616.html

 

Interesting that you refer to the nose on 0846 as pounded Allegretti with no reference to it being a replica whereas you've instantly seized on that opportunity to call it a replica for the pounded Allegretti body on 0860.

 

That's Old Man Allegretti, not his son.

To the minutest detail, 'Napolis has made it abundantly clear on multiple occasions what is NOS, both in print, and on web.

 

?? The tail and doors on 0846 are original as I said from 0858. The nose was pounded by Allegretti. All of this has been fully disclosed for years. The entire body on Piperised 0858 will be incorrectly made replica and the body on 0860 is entirely correctly made replica. None of this is news.

Very strange that as "Serious Collectors" know what's up, Piperised 0858 has been for sale for a long time at it's 25MM USD ask. You'd think it would jump off the lot.

 

That's true (Piper to Pedretti and me) and a HUGE difference.

 

You're correct. The chassis is what determines. Chassis that are legally proven to be original are eligible to pass in and our of Italy under than legal identity without issue. There is no legal issue what so ever with passing Piperised 0858 into and out of Italy or any other country.

 

As you like to point out the smallest incorrectness of other people's projects, the tail and doors from 0858, a P4, are incorrect tipo for 0846, a P3/4.

As you care so much about preserving history you should remove the 0858 tail and doors from 0846 and reunite them with the car that they belong on, 0858.

 

Sigh.

 

Ha! That's exactly what *I* did.


via rubber ducky

 

Are you really so stupid that you don't understand that an original alloy P4 tail and original P4 fiberglass not alloy doors are EXACTLY correct for tipo P 3/4?

 

But they've come off a P4, not a P3/4, are marked 0858 not 0846. They don't belong on the car. Don't you understand?

 

Once again what you posted is not true.

You clearly said:

"the tail and doors from 0858, a P4, are incorrect tipo for 0846, a P3/4."

That is not true.

They are not "incorrect tipo for 0846, a P3/4."

They are correct Tipo for P 3/4 0846.

Better luck next time.

 

My point was that they have come off a different tipo car and clearly marked 0858, not 0846 which in my book makes them a different tipo, because they have the identity of 0858, not 0846, despite being the same.

 

Dream on.

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I'm putting Steve on ignore as his posts as noted by others have become sigh/cringe worthy.

If he posts anything worth responding to others kindly let me know.

Cheers

 

Surely you understand the hugh gaping difference between swapping original bodyparts between cars for which they are correct and removing a perfectly original body for a replica one?

 

I was being excessively pedantic to make a point, assuming wrongly that the reader would recognise that. Okay, I just lost my head as well as my arms and legs.

 

miurasv - I sure hope you are getting a cut from Piper/Talacrest for all this promotional work you've been doing to attempt to legitimize their actions here.

I've been on the wrong side of an argument once before so I know how you must feel.

>8^)
ER

 

Hi Guys,

You`ve all got me mighty confused here!

I understood that when 0856, 0858 and 0860 left the factory in their original clothes, they were all berlinettas - no spyders.

Can anyone please confirm?

Regards

Jong

 

no prob. I always appreciate your posts. Even when I don't agree.

 

0856, 0858 and 0860 were all made as Berlinettas but converted to Spyder later. I think 0846 was the only one that was originally made as a Spyder? 0844, 0848, 0850 and 0854 were originally made as Berlinettas too?????

 

I think it is a shame that #0854 will be the only remaining berlinetta (I think).

The berlinetta is fncken stunning, while the spyder is practical but oh so much has been lost in the looks department.
Pete

 

0848 and 0850 are Berlinettas currently too???

 

Good to know. Have been having trouble sleeping thinking about all those berlinettas being reduced to ugly spyders
Pete