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  1. rob lay

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    Why did Risi and FoW go to the Maserati GT's? The factory must of had something to do with it. They spent all of last year perfecting the 360 GT and it has a weight/HP advantage over the Maserati. It just makes no sense to me except there was money involved. All that hard work on the 360 GT and they end that program for the Maserati. I would of been OK with the 360 GTC and I think that car is even better than the 360 GT.

    So far after the first two practice sessions the Maseratis from Risi and FoW are 3 seconds off the pace of some 911's and over 2 seconds off what they ran last year in the 360 GT.

    Practice 2...

    16
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    Fitzgerald / Policastro / Policastro / Liddell / Mowlem
    Orbit Racing
    Porsche GT3 RS
    01:53.586
    112.83

    17
    66
    GT
    Buckler / Bernhard / Bergmeister / Long
    The Racers Group / Monster Cable
    Porsche GT3 RS
    01:54.407
    112.02

    18
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    Rockenfeller van_Overbeek / Neiman / Pechnik / Cunningham /
    Flying Lizard Motorsports
    Porsche GT3 Cup
    01:55.074
    111.37

    20
    68
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    Valentine / Gleason / Zimroth / Krozcek / James
    The Racers Group / Monster Cable
    Porsche GT3 RS
    01:56.481
    110.02

    21
    67
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    Ehret / Matthews / Nielsen / Nearn
    The Racers Group / Monster Cable
    Porsche GT3 RS
    01:56.630
    109.88

    22
    22
    GT
    Jonsson / Marks / Hand / Said / Auberlen
    Prototype Technology Group
    BMW M3
    01:56.842
    109.68

    23
    30
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    Kelleners / Lazzaro / Bobbi
    Risi Competizione
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    01:57.562
    109.01

    24
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    Engelhorn / Quester / Peter / Montermini
    Red Bull BE Racing
    Ferrari 360 Modena
    01:57.649
    108.93

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  3. Jay GT4

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    Rob, I think that Maserati is NOT selling well in the US or in Europe. This is an attempt to put some life back into the brand. FOW did some serious developement of the 360 to make it competitive and now the Factory wants them to do it for the Maserati. I hope it works because I actually like the new Maseratis, I want to see them stick around.
     
  4. Texas Forever

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    FWIW Rob, I was told that Mr. Risi's team is about as close to be a factory team as you can get without being the factory. I suspect the same is true for FOW.

    They are struggling because they just got the cars, and it's a blank piece of paper.

    But, hey, at least Ferrari and Maser are racing, which is more than you can say for some other car companies.

    DrTax
     
  5. rob lay

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    Yep, the only thing that makes sense is what you say. I bet they gave FoW and FoH the cars, parts, tech support, and maybe a driver or two. Greg Ray of IRL fame was supposed to drive the Risi car and canceled last week, now they have an Italian hot shoe in there. Former owner and driver of my car, Steve Earle, is in the FoW Maserati.

    If no money was coming from Italy, then for their sake and the sake of sponsors they would of kept the 360 GT. I just noticed that Calpont isn't listed as a sponsor on the Maserati this year. That's another interesting twist.
     
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    Rob,

    I talked with Mr. Risi. They are going to run the Maserati at Daytona only. They will race the 360GT for the full ALMS series and Lemans. They were at Florida testing the 360GT two weeks ago......

    Does that make you feel any better??????
     
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    They also just received the all-new Maserati GT Light a week ago. The one they tested two weeks ago was the old Trofeo prototype and I was told it was very tired. They are working very hard to get the new car set up properly. I am sure there is midnight oil burning tonight..........
     
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    I hope they have a respectable showing at least.I really like the new maserati road cars so it would be nice to see them do well.
     
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    You can go to www.grand-am.com and click on the Zippo live scoring icon and it will pull up real time positions and times..........Practice session 3 is going right now.
     
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    Why not the 360 GTC??
     
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  13. rob lay

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    Thanks James. Now it makes sense.

    The 360 GTC would probably take so long to get to where the 360 GT is already. Also have to consider the financial impact. The Forza article provided a bunch of insight. There's not an unlimited budget.
     
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    Sorry, it is actually the GTC they will be running as far as I know. They have been doing a lot of development work on it the past month or so. I will let you know more as I learn it.
     
  15. rob lay

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    Really? From the Forza article on Risi Comp I thought they were running the 360 GT again, the GTC would cost much to develop from scratch unless Italy gives them the cars. I'm sure at minimum Risi gets a good deal on them.
     
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    Risi Competizione Maserati GT from yesterday...
     
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    JMB Racing USA Ferrari 360 GT from yesterday...
     
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    For those who frequent Crystal Cove, you may have met my neighbor Joe Kunz (who drove his full-race GT3 cup car to the Cove one morning - with me scouting ahead via cell phone).

    Joe is racing at Daytona tomorrow (24 hour). He is in car 17, GT3 Cup car of AASCO Motorsport (a company he and a friend own). There is a crowd of drivers, but the two cars, # 16 and # 17 should be fun to watch.

    Jim S.
     
  19. AnotherDunneDeal

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    Did you notice that Risi Comp actually qualified 1/2 second better than FoW but starts in 39th while FoW starts in 28th? And they did that time in 1st round qualifying. I wonder what the deal is. They had to run 2nd round qualifying today to make the grid. ???????????????????????
     
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    Hey Rob

    Check out car 15 of the prototype's, it is driven by Tom Hessert and his 17 year old son.

    you met Tom at the Atlantic City F-chat outing. He was the one who brought his F-40 to the outing.
     
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    Yes, kinda like Indy I think where 2nd round qualifiers start 30 place back. I'm really looking forward to this, watching the 24 hour Daytona and Le Mans races is my favorite.

    VWH3RD, yes, thanks for the reminder, I'll keep track of him too.

    Starting positions:

    17th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J. 01:54.486

    25th #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT 01:57.321

    26th #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT 01:57.385

    35th #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena 01:54.629

    36th #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT 01:54.963

    38th #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT 01:56.882

    45th #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT 01:59.816

    Green flag just flew!
     
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    If you do not have Speed Channel, you can keep up live at www.grand-am.com. Just click on the Zippo live scoring icon. It will give you every racer and their position in real time.
     
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    0.5 Hours, 23.5 Hours to go:

    13th #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    29th #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    35th #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    41th #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    42nd #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    47th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    52nd #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT
     
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    These last results are a little weird because of a yellow flag for debris and also the timing of pit stops. The #73 is all the way back to 31st now.

    James, I'm sure you heard it, but they explained the back starting position for several cars because they didn't notify of which qualifying driver properly.
     
  25. AnotherDunneDeal

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    At 12:58 central, the #33 FoW car (Maserati) is leading the GT class. Pitstops have started.
     
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    1.5 Hours, 22.5 Hours to go:

    18th(4th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    28th(10th in class) #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    29th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    30th(11th in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    31st #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    42nd #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    47th #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT

    FoW Maserati doing really well and Risi Maserati moving up slowly.
     
  27. AnotherDunneDeal

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    Rob,

    I just checked my last e-mail that I had gotten from Tony N. and he said that Risi Comp was going to definitely run the 360 GTC (heavy emphasis on the "C") for the entire ALMS series and Lemans. Should be interesting for the rest of the GT field. Too bad they are not doing it at Daytona.
     
  28. teflon

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    I can't wait to see the 360 GTC running! I am so tired of the porsche GT3 RS parade in ALMS & at Le Mans. I hope the GTC is the answer to Porsche's new RSR's.

    Greg A
     

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