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  1. AnotherDunneDeal

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    #26 AnotherDunneDeal, Jan 31, 2004
    1 hour 45 minutes into the race. The two Maseratis are 4th (Fow) and 7th(Risi Comp) in class. Watching the lap times of Risi Comp, I believe they are going for an average of about 2.01 for stretching out between pit stops and saving parts. They have moved up steadily from 16th in class to 7th. They qualified at 1.56 so we know they can kick it up a notch or two if need be. Risi Comp is well known for making their machinery last. It paid off for them last year when they took 2nd overall and in 1998 when they won their class at Lemans with the 333sp.
     
  2. rob lay

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    #27 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    I think the problem is the air restrictors. The 360 GT is a faster car than the GT3's, but then they put heavey air restrictors on it. I think the GTC has more HP even with the restrictors because they located them at a different place.
     
  3. rob lay

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    #28 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    2 Hours, 22 Hours to go:

    14th(2nd in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    20th(5th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    24th(7th in class) #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    31st #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    40th #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    42nd #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    43rd #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT

    Maseratis doing great, Red Bull 360 really doing well as it's up to 2nd in class. Was in 1st for a little.
     
  4. 96impalaSS

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    #29 96impalaSS, Jan 31, 2004
    I cant believe Paul Newman is 79 years old and still racing. Thats impressive.
     
  5. Napolis

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    #30 Napolis, Jan 31, 2004
    Owning a Maser I'm not surprised at how they're doing. I'm getting old. The front of the pack Prototypes look like dog sh it to me. I much perfer sportscars. Do you think because of how slow the 360's are and how fast the Maser's are the prices of 360's will fall faster?
     
  6. rob lay

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    #31 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    I don't think this race will have anything to do with the street prices, not enough exposure. The 360's are still faster than the Maseratis, but the Maseratis have been more consistent. One reason is the FoW and Risi teams are better and more experienced than some of the smaller 360 teams. JMB USA is a little of a hire a ride team.
     
  7. rob lay

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    #32 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    I just had a really good nap. Looks like things are about the same.

    5 Hours, 19 Hours to go:

    13th(4th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    14th(5th in class) #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    16th(6th in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    25th #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    36th #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    39th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    49th #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT.
     
  8. rob lay

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    #33 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    6 Hours, 18 Hours to go:

    13th(4th in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    15th(5th in class) #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    24th #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    27th(10th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    35th #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    40th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    49th #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT.

    Looks like something knocked the FoW Maserati back, but I don't know what. Risi is hanging in there and the #73 360 is doing well. Anyone else really impressed with how quick Tony Stewart got up to speed and has continued it for an entire stint. He's moved the car up to 1st place.
     
  9. 96impalaSS

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    #34 96impalaSS, Jan 31, 2004
    Thanks for the updates Rob
     
  10. Prancing_Horse

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    #35 Prancing_Horse, Jan 31, 2004
    damnit

    the FoW masarati is taking forever to get fixed
     
  11. rob lay

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    #36 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    Do you know what happened to it? I didn't see. Many are crashing coming out the bus stop because of the standing water.
     
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    #37 Prancing_Horse, Jan 31, 2004
    arperntly it was damaged on the from and they are replacing something but i dont rmember what
     
  13. rob lay

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    #38 rob lay, Jan 31, 2004
    8 Hours, 16 Hours to go:

    12th(4th in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    18th(6th in class) #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    22nd #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    35th(16th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    33rd #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    46th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    50th #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT.

    It's off the air until 6am tomorrow EST.
     
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    10 Hours, 14 Hours to go:

    11th(3rd in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    30th(13th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    35th #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    37th #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    40th #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    49th #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    51st #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT.

    Looks like some interesting stuff has hapened since it's been off the air. Wonder about the Risi car, they must of been in the pits for 30-40 minutes, but they're running now and good laps in the rain. Best hope I guess is the #73 360 which is 8-10 laps back of the GT leaders, but running 2-3 seconds a lap faster.
     
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    #40 ferrarifixer, Jan 31, 2004
    I hope the #73 car hangs together. Englehorn and Montermini etc did the Bathurst 24hr down here........they ran top 3 for ages, but run it to the rev limiter the whole time until it blew up in hr 13.......

    fingers crossed
     
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    #41 AnotherDunneDeal, Feb 1, 2004
    The Bell Motorsports car driven by Terry Borcheller is co-driven by Forrest Barber who ran a 355 Challenge car out of FoDallas. Terry drove the Rand Racing/Risi Comp SRPII Nissan Lola to the class victory at Daytona in 2002 and set a record that will probably never be broken. He and Anthony Lazzaro set the pole in class and let the whole race in their class to finish 1st and never dropped into 2nd the whole race, even when pitting.

    It looks like Risi/Comp had some kind of an electrical engine problem and lost about 50 laps. Man, what a tough break. But they are back up now and running. 14th class as of 12:45 am central.

    It is amazing how many of these drivers have driven a Risi/Comp car before. Terry Borcheller (2002 SRPII National Champion in Rand Racing/Risi Comp Nissan Lola), Wayne Taylor (won class at 1998 24 heures de mans in 333sp), Didier Theys (333sp), Max Papis(333sp), Steve Earle( Multi time national champion Ferrari Challenge, FoHouston), Johnny Mowlem(360GT last year), Forrest Barber (355 Challenge, FoDallas)and I am sure a few more I cannot remember.
     
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    #43 rob lay, Feb 1, 2004
    18 Hours, 6 Hours to go:

    9th(3rd in class) #73 GT Red Bull BE Racing / Ferrari 360 Modena

    27th(11th in class) #33 GT Scuderia Ferrari of Washington / Maserati Light GT

    30th #93 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    31st #30 GT Risi Competizione / Maserati Light GT

    36th #94 GT Mastercar / Ferrari 360GT

    50th(IN PIT) #15 DP Tom Hessert Jr, Cherry Hill, N.J.; Tom Hessert III, Cherry Hill, N.J.

    51st(OUT) #11 GT JMB Racing USA / Ferrari 360GT.

    I guess the theme of this year's race is reliability as more cars than usual are still in the race. That really hasn't played well to the Maseratis. Although both have had problems loosing 30-40 laps for unknown problems. Lap wise they've been competitive in the rain.

    Hopefully the #73 360 holds off the Racers Group Porsche which is now on the same lap. Hopefully the two Maseratis run consistent through the last 6 hours and will move up just because of attrition.

    Go FIAT!
     
  19. rob lay

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    #44 rob lay, Feb 1, 2004
    Full course yellow because of the deep standing water. I guess last night for some time they had full course yellow too.
     
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    #45 Napolis, Feb 1, 2004
    Seriously what do you think of the prototypes vrs the sportcars? Don't you think a race where the cars looked like sportscars you could buy would be more valuable to mfg's? I mean does anyone care that a DP running a "Pontiac" may have won?
     
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    #46 wax, Feb 1, 2004
    Well, I don't know - to paraphrase some comments in the late hours of this red-flagged muy rapido birdbath broadcast, there were 18 cars in qualifying (only 6 last year) - 11 combinations of manufacturers and approved prototype teams - all striving to win now, and on the flip side of the same token, win later. In the past, any team had a very short time to put a combo together, whereas the prototype division allows for greater strides to be made in the short and long haul, which translates into innovation and success on the track, and eventually - some components into manufacturer retail car design. In either case, I think it translates into less of the "look what we're stuck with this year" and expect to see more interest in road racing and therefore, more appetites whetted to appreciate the good, the bad and the ugly.

    Looks like they'll be back out on the track after several hours torrential rain delay... likely to hit the road are:

    9th overall | 3rd in GT | #73 | 360
    29th overall | 11th in GT | #93 | 360
    30th overall | 12th in GT | #30 | Light
    33rd overall | 13th in GT | #33 | Light
    35th overall | 15th in GT | #94 | 360
     
  22. Jay GT4

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    #47 Jay GT4, Feb 1, 2004
    I thought the whole point of the DP class was to keep manufacturer's out and reduce the costs.
     
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    #48 wax, Feb 1, 2004
    No and Yes on each well-raised point - it would be a godsend to the whole kit and kaboodle to get Ferrari and Jaguar "officially" involved.

    Actual Retail Value: .02
     
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    #49 Prancing_Horse, Feb 1, 2004
    holy crap,

    i just woke up and it's still going!
     
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    #50 Prancing_Horse, Feb 1, 2004
    AAAAWWWWWWW CRAP!!!!!

    FoW IS OUT!!!

    UPDATE:

    it just said it isnt

    this is confusing
     
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