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  1. James lafevers

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    My 1970 246 sn is 1216. Is there a way to find out what the original color was?
     
  2. cls

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    Ferrari will tell you. Classiche will look it up and send a confirmation letter, when I did it, it cost $350. Someone here might know too, but the letter and factory confirmation is nice to have.
     
  3. Bluebottle

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    Typical Ferrari! Jaguar will do the same for £50!
     
  4. GIOTTO

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    Can you post a photo of you car please ? Thanks.
     
  5. Marcel Massini

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    01216:
    Original exterior color: Rosso Bordeaux 20-R-351.
    Original interior color: Beige 430.
    20 October 1970 factory completion date.
    Engine type 135 CS, internal #409. Fiat #000.6326.
    Gearbox type 607 M, internal #662.
    Scaglietti body type 607 M, #53 M.
    Delivered new to Italcar S.p.A. in Torino, Italy.
    First owner Renzo Manzone.

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  6. Marcel Massini

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    According to the 2019 price list Classiche is charging now US$ 775 for this service.

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  7. TonyL

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    In my opinion Rosso Bordeaux is a beautiful colour and goes well with the beige interior, I returned mine back to original and don't regret the colour combination for one second.
    Tony
     
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    I am glad I checked on 07924 when it was FREE!
     
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  10. Marcel Massini

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    05216:
    246 Dino GTS Spider.
    Original exterior color: Bianco Polo 20-W-152.
    Original interior color: Nero 161.
    Engine type 135 CS, internal #10421.
    Gearbox type 607 E, internal #1464.
    Scaglietti body type 607 E, internal #1414.
    Factory completion date 7 November 1972.
    Delivered new to official dealer Motor S.a.s. di Carla Allegretti e C., Bologna, Italy.
    First owner Mr. Antonelli.

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  11. schwoo

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    Wow!! Fantastic!! Thanks so very much!!
     
  12. Marcel Massini

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    Pleasure.

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  13. pshoejberg

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    Marcel you are a gentleman! I wonder if your data files go back as late as to the L-series. I have never been able to establish the exact information on the drive train on my #0504 (Engine + gearbox)? Any info would be very appreciated.

    Best regards Peter
     
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  15. Marcel Massini

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    00504:
    Original exterior color: Bianco Polo 20-W-152.
    Original interior color: Blu 135-Pelle Nuvola VM 3015.
    Engine type 135 CS, internal #73 L. Fiat #000.5272.
    Gearbox type 607 L, internal #226.
    Scaglietti body #196 D.
    18 September 1969 Factory completion date.
    Delivered new to official Swiss importer SAVAF (Société Anonyme pour la Vente des Automobiles Ferrari), domiciled in Geneva, Switzerland.
    (The correct chassis number is 00504, not 0504)

    Marcel Massini
     
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  16. 375+

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    Marcel all of us greatly appreciate your generosity and contributions not only to this forum but to all of Fchat. It has taken decades of diligent work to build your archives, sharing it so readily is an incredible gift to us all. Sincere thanks to you sir.
     
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  17. pshoejberg

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    Thanks Marcel much appreciated, Indeed the chassis number is 00504 as you correctly mention. My bad.

    The information corresponds with the actual numbers on my car except from the engine number (See pictures). The engine in my car is number 0005298 and this number points to another car with very similar chassis number. I suspect that there could have been some confusion in the factory records, alternatively the engine must have been swabbed at some point in life, but not the gearbox. Quite strange and possible not something I ever get the the full story of.

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  18. Marcel Massini

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    00504:
    Engine #000.5298 corresponds to chassis #00544, a Giallo Fly 20-Y-191/Nero 161 Dino 246 GT delivered new thru Crepaldi Automobili in Milan to first owner Giuseppe Pasquetti.

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  19. pshoejberg

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    Correct Marcel....I tried to contact the believed owner of this car (#00544) a few years ago but never succeeded.....Number #00504 and #00544....easy to mix up records and why is the gearbox not swabbed. Also If you trace gearbox numbers on other L-series close to mine you will notice that gearbox 226 might not be the most logical box for my car as well...-:)

    Best Peter
     
  20. Marcel Massini

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    #20 Marcel Massini, Apr 11, 2019
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    The ONLY logic to apply is that there is/was NO logic at all. Do not search for logic, especially not for stuff that happened 50 years ago. Modern standards and expectations are different but of no use.
    They just took what was available on the shelf on that specific day. In 1969 nobody even thought that these cars would still survive half a century later and that they could potentially be of value.

    Gearbox number logic?
    00428 = 200.
    00432 = 202.
    00458 = 210.
    00546 = 227.
    00576 = 195.
    00616 = 306.
    And on and on.
    ZERO logic.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  21. Eltel246

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    Hi Marcel,

    I would love to know any details you may have on my car. Owned by me for 41 years this year.

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  22. Marcel Massini

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    01162:
    Original exterior color: Rosso Chiaro 20-R-190.
    Original interior color: Nero 161.
    Engine type 135 CS, internal #383. Fiat #000.6240.
    Gearbox type 607 M, internal #544.
    Scaglietti Body type 607 M, internal #27 M.
    27 October 1970 factory completion date.
    Delivered new to official dealer Motor S.a.s. di Carla Allegretti e C., Rome and Bologna, Italy.

    Marcel Massini
     
  23. James lafevers

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    Thank you marcel, great info
     
  24. Eltel246

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    Thats Great Marcel, Thank you so Much. Any info on the 1st Owner?
     
  25. Marcel Massini

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    I have no information on the 1st owner.

    Marcel Massini
     

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