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  1. urraco

    urraco Formula Junior

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    #1 urraco, May 5, 2004
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    What was the deal with DINO . was it "another" company apart form Ferrari how many models/years it existed? what car is the one in this pic? all info or history about Dino will be appreciated Thanks
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  2. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Just like to add ... and Alfa Romeo's (all important pre war Alfa Romeos) and Lancia's (designed the D50) history!

    A true legend and my automotive hero.

    Pete
     
  3. macca

    macca Formula Junior

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    Just to clarify a slightly misleading bit and a couple of dates:

    Alfredo (known as Alfredino or just Dino) Ferrari was involved in the design of the V6 just before his death and it was named and marked on the cambox covers in tribute to him when it appeared in 1957. From 1957 to 1960 the rules for international single-seaters were 2500cc for F1 and 1500cc for F2, pure racing engines, and the Dino V6 was built as a 1500cc F2. It turned out to be nearly as fast as the 2500cc V8 Lancia-derived F1 that was nearing the end of its useful life, so larger versions were built and raced in non-championship races. For 1958 F1 cars had to run on petrol (gas) instead of methanol, and the V6 was designed for this, so full-sized F1 versions were built and raced until 1960 alongside the 1500cc F2's.

    For 1961 the F1 rules changed to 1500c, so Ferrari had a head-start on the British builders and dominated 1961 with the Sharknose 156, firstly with the 65deg engine dating back to 1957, and then with a 120deg V6 specially built for mid-engined cars (it was too wide to fit into a front-engined car).

    Ferrari had also built front-engined sports-racers with various sizes of V6, up to 3000cc, and in 1961-62 also built mid-engined cars based on the F1 chassis, with engines of 1900cc (196SP) or 2400cc (246SP), which had an advantage on twisty circuits like the Targa Florio and Nurburgring.

    From 1961 to 1966 Ferrari didn't bother with F2. In 1965 they built a new sports-racer, the 166 Dino, based on the 1964-65 F1 chassis, with the 65deg V6, and this was later used to win the European Hillclimb Championship, and was the basis of the 206S Dinos of 1966.

    For 1967 the F2 rules changed to 1600cc production-based (minimum 500), and that is when Ferrari had Fiat build the Fiat Dino road cars. Ferrari were late bringing their F2 car out in 1967 and struggled to be competitive, but did win some races in 1968 before pulling out, although the rules didn't change until 1972 to 2000cc, and pure racing engines were only allowed from 1976.

    PWM
     
  4. urraco

    urraco Formula Junior

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    Thanks for your replies, but about the pictured car: was it intented for race or street use? any additional info will be appreciated
     
  5. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Race.

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  6. Fiat Dino 206

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  7. Peter

    Peter F1 Veteran
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    If one was brave enough then (and even now), it could also be driven on the street... ;)
     
  8. Fiat Dino 206

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    Just a quick note:

    The Dino 206S was built in the production division of Ferrari not the racing department so Pete may be right: the car may be capable of being driven on the street ... no doubt with caution. Launching the 206S at a stop light might be more a matter of not running over whatever is in front of the car than a matter of comfort and tractability ... the engine in these cars is pretty "high strung."


    Best wishes
     
  9. Old Guy

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    I owned a 206 SP and they can be driven on the street -- I did so on more than one occasion -- but it wasn't a good idea then or now. They are NOT meant as road cars; the engine is not happy in that role, and there is very little ground clearance. On the other hand, years and years ago a couple drove a 206 SP coupe, probably the one pictured, half-way across the US to attend a FCA Annual Meet.
     
  10. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Some of the specialized Dinos in the European Hillclimb Series were even more radical than the one pictured!!!!

    These cars are so low it'd be very dangerous to drive them in today's urban traffic conditions, IMO!

    They are sure beautiful, though!
     
  11. urraco

    urraco Formula Junior

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    it's seems your life has been full of excitement and good cars why don't you tell us about all the cars you have owned or driven in the past? that would be so interesting to read.
     
  12. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    That's just too damn cool for words.
     

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