Door Trim

It sounds like your seal is the wrong size. I had this problem on my first car where the door seal had been replaced at some point with an oversized seal. As a result it made the doors difficult to close and was pushing them out of alignment. When I bought my second car which was completely original I was able to see that the squashable rubber U section was about half the size of the one on my first car. The attached pic shows the size of seal you need.

The seal should be cut in a simple mitred join in the front lower corner next to each footwell. The seal should also be cut in the top rear corner. I've included a pic to show you how this was done by the factory as it is more complex. The rigid U shaped chanel was cut back by around 2cm leaving a section of the compression rubber tube exposed. This is opened out into a T section and overlaps the compression section of the seal placed along the top of the door aperture seam.
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Iain
Did you source that over here?

tony

 

I did Tony.

 

Johnno,

The seal shouldn't touch your door trim card at all but rest on the exposed metal edge of the door around it. Your current seal is too large and possibly not cut correctly into the two opposing top and bottom corners hence why it is pushing onto your new door card trim.

 

Here are pics of my doors to show that there should be around 10mm or so of exposed paintwork around the edge of the door card which the door aperture seal mates up against when the door is closed. The seal should not touch the door card at all and you should still be able to see part of the painted surround when sitting in the car with the doors closed like you can in this pic showing my passenger door firmly closed and sealed yet the paint is just visible along the bottom of the inside of the passenger door.
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Looks nice.....and clean too.

 

In post #2, that upper corner does NOT look mitered to me either. This revival of this post is timely as I just acquired that piece to replace the relatively hardened (with age) original piece. On mine, those corners (upper rear and lower front) are cut to ~45 degree angles...ie, mitered. In your picture, the corner appears overlapped somehow.

Also, those dimensions do not seem correct. Per Cicognani web page for this part (Dino 206 - 246 GT (1967-73))

(p/n 16325160 RH/LH DOOR OPENING RUBBER SEAL)

It's profile and dimensions are this...
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I believe it should wrap the door and seam should be at the bottom, centered.
top run should not have any breaks....

 

I don't think it's possible to make 90 degree bends with this trim given its interior metal `gripper'. The upper front and lower back `corners' are gently sweeping curves allowing for a continuous stretch of trim. And having a seam in the middle of a run really seems just wrong...even for an Italian car!

 

Apologies, mitred was the wrong word to describe it. My Rosso Dino car's seals in post #2 is exactly as it left the factory. The seal on my E series car is not like the Cicognani part. Their dimensions are too large and the compressible rubber section is not the shape they show.

The top T section you see is created by removing the requisite length of the plastic covered U shaped chanel leaving only the foam bulb at the top of the seal. You then fold back each side of the foam opening it out so it is flat and trim it to the appropriate size to lay over the top of the section that runs horizontally over the top of the door opening thus creating the T shape you see in the photo.

Here is a somewhat crude picture of what I'm trying to describe.
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I know it's not how it came from the factory, but in southern California heat in the car is an issue so I removed the seal and put simple edge covering in its place.

No seal = more airflow inside the car and out around the door = driver stays cooler.

 

Right, its a GT, was thinking of something else.

 

johnno,

I've sent you a PM.

I've just realised I posted the wrong picture for the deal seal in my post #2 which shows the incorrect size so my sincere apologies are due to everyone. Here is the correct size plus a photo of how the seal fits in the corner below the door hinges.
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Iain, what`s the Cicognani code?

 

Matthias,

I've sent you an email. Cicognani's code appears to be 16325160.

 

Ian, could you let me know who in the UK you bought this seal from please.
Many thanks

 

I found them on eBay Charles. I can't recall who the vendor was unfortunately as it was 6 years ago now.

 

Ok Iain, Thank You