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Ebay: Ferrari 250 Tour de France - LWB Alloy Competition Berlinetta

Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Bill_OBrien, Mar 17, 2009.

  1. Bill_OBrien

    Bill_OBrien Formula Junior

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  3. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    "new male pistons" installed in 2006
     
  4. Jeff Kennedy

    Jeff Kennedy F1 Veteran
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    Strange place to offer such a high value car. The conditions placed on the bidding that the other car the seller wants to buy with the proceeds of this sale seem convoluted.

    I take it that this is not going to be a real auction but an alternative method to seeking phone calls from interested parties.

    Jeff
     
  5. jsa330

    jsa330 F1 Veteran
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    My ultimate ownership dream....a mere "Buy It Now" click away.
     
  6. amenasce

    amenasce Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Didnt know TDF's were 5m$ or is it because it's an Alloy Comp car?
     
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  8. mdsaxon

    mdsaxon Karting

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    is COMPLETELY out of touch with current values. You could buy 2 Series 4 TDF's for $5m. I place current values at $2.5m for a really nice TDF. The most this Car would have been worth last year at the high-tick mark would have been $4m, IF it was a platinum resto. Something doesn't smell right.
     
  9. Jeff Kennedy

    Jeff Kennedy F1 Veteran
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    All TdFs are alloy comp cars. Most have some to huge amounts of competion history.

    Jeff
     
  10. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    mahle makes pistons....
     
  11. Ed Niles

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    I prefer the image of Male pistons.
     
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  13. BigTex

    BigTex Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    There are similiarities....LOL!
     
  14. ColdWater

    ColdWater Formula Junior

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    Do German pistons make Italian cars more virile, or just more valuable ?
     
  15. BarnFound330

    BarnFound330 Karting

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    Mahle makes great pistons.......original supplier to the arch enemy, Porsche since the begining.....of Porsche that is
     
  16. Garymyman

    Garymyman Formula Junior

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    Looks like the ludicrous "Buy It Now" is keeping would-be bidders away. Evidenced by the fact that with 2 days remaining the bid is much lower than the unrestored 275 GTB discussed on here a few weeks ago.
     
  17. Birel

    Birel Formula 3

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    I know this car quite well, it is in extremely fine condition. Regarding value, I agree it seems overpriced for a version that is no longer eligible for the Mille Miglia (although it has participated in the retro MM a few years ago) However, I also doubt it is worth as little as US$2.5m. Will be interesting to see how it fares on Ebay, I would have thought RM, Bonhams or Gooding would have been a better chance. So what do we thing a TDF with correct provenance and Mille Miglia eligibility is realistically worth today ?
     
  18. geno berns

    geno berns F1 Rookie

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    Cavallino lists the TDF's worth as $1.5MM-$4MM. I would not go over the $3MM mark. This way I would feel "safe" if there is further decline in pricing. Dialing my banker now...



     
  19. naparsei

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    The beginning of Porsche and the beginning of Ferrari aren't very far apart... their first cars came to market within 2 year of one another...
     
  20. Bill_OBrien

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    #17 Bill_OBrien, Mar 18, 2009
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    RM Auction January 16th 2009 a 1958 Ferrari 250 GT TdF SN 0787GT was bid to $1.8 for a no sale. That car had a period correct but non-original V12, pitted trim and filler noted Cond:3
     
  21. bannishg

    bannishg Formula Junior

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    Sheesh, overpriced, wouldn't you say? When Glen Snider bought it in October 74, he paid under $10,000 for it. I'll consider the car if it falls back into that price range.
     
  22. kare

    kare F1 Rookie
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    Is it me or is there something wrong with the closed head light conversion? The Tour de France is not supposed to look frightened! FWIW; I think it's pretty stupid to convert a car like this into closed headlight version after 60 years or so. Besides, it looked far better with those open headlights. This car used to be one of my favorite Berlinettas, but it sure ain't that no more.

    Would also be nice to know how they identified this one as the mystery Brewer car.
     
  23. tongascrew

    tongascrew F1 Rookie

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    It was sold after the bidding closed. This is not uncommon for many reasons.If it is what they say it is even without the original engine it would have sold for over a Million more a year ago. just one man's opinion tongascrew
     
  24. iwanna860monza

    iwanna860monza Karting

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    IMHO $5 mil. is far too much for a bog standard late series TDF, when cars such as the one RM had last August in Monterey struggles to get to $4.5 mil. with a better competition history, better looking, etc. $2.0 mil. - $2.5 mil. might be a more realistic selling price in these times. Further for your $5 mil. you could get the ex Le Mans 250 SWB Goodings were trying to shift in Arizona which would be a much better buy long term.
     
  25. bannishg

    bannishg Formula Junior

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    Agreed!..... but would still prefer to grant my funds to MIT students toward the development of a time machine....
     
  26. mdsaxon

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  27. loflyer47

    loflyer47 Formula Junior

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    So does anyone know whatever happened to this car?? The listing seems to have been pulled..
     
  28. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Auction ended 3/19. Max bid was $500,100. NS.
     

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