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Discussion in '308/328' started by icecar-1, Aug 5, 2013.

  1. icecar-1

    icecar-1 Formula Junior

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    Hi all. looking for some guidance here.
    After returning home from Tutto Italiano in Brookline yesterday, I raised my engine lid (noticing it was heavier) and found the gas struts have failed. Perfect timing.
    I see a Strongarm part number 4760 listed and I need to know if they are correct for a 328s. If not... any suggestions ?
    Thanks, Steve
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    Are they in the interchangeable listing at the top - pretty sure this has been asked and solved before as its a regular issue
     
  3. Freddie328

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    You could get those refurbished at less cost. That way you will keep the Ferrari logo's that replacements dont have.
     
  4. icecar-1

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    I believe the thread stated Strongarm #6271 for a 308. I am not sure they are the same for a 328 hence the inquiry.
    Or has the part number been superceded to 4760 ?

    Thanks, Steve
     
  5. Freddie328

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    you could have them refurbished - saves cash and you get to keep the original Ferrari logo's that the replacements wont have.
     
  6. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    Indeed they don't - I just replaced mine (from Ferrari) and they came in the manufacturer's original boxes with their logos all over them :( . If they fail again I might well get the originals rebuilt.
     
  7. Freddie328

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    I think SGS engineering will refurb them.
     
  8. icecar-1

    icecar-1 Formula Junior

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    Thanks guys. I can live without the Ferrari logo on the struts. I will just box up the originals when I replace them. I know of no source local to me who would refurbish them. That does not mean they don't exist I just have no source.
    I believe the Strongarm struts also fit a Saab 9000 according to my local parts vendor. I'm just trying to confirm the correct part number before I get them. They are less than $25.00 each... so not big financial loss here. 1986 328 is the application.

    Thanks, Steve
     
  9. DGS

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    I put some saab 900 turbo struts on my 328 as a fill-in, once.
    They didn't extend as far, but had more pressure, so the lid lifted on its own, once the latches were released.

    I replaced them with factory struts. I've had to get new struts a couple times in 14 years.
    I didn't know of a place to refurb struts in MA, either. ;)

    I use my old, weak, struts (along with a flat plate to protect the seat), to put pressure on the brake pedal when checking the brake lights. ;)
     
  10. GordonC

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    I just bought a pair of struts from rock auto.com for my 84 308 - SACHS Part # SG237001, Trunk Lid, $42.79. They are absolutely identical to the original units except for the Ferrari logo. The same part shows for a 328.
     
  11. vaccarella

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    Very straightforward. I can't believe the US doesn't have facilities that can do this. Don't throw out your original struts.
     
  12. John M

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    Those are the ones to get....what Gordon C said. The strongarm 4760 is too weak. I have tried them. They fail as they are not up to the task. I think the correct strongarm number is actually 6271 if you want to get ones up to the task. I have not tried them.

    But these Stabilus sg237001 are the ones I have now and they will literally raise the lid by themselves if I lift the lid 6 inches off the latches.

    Stabilus SG237001 2 Rear Trunk Gas Lift Supports Boot Lid Lift Support | eBay
     
  13. Wilson308

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    +2 for the Stabilus, they made the OEM units. After almost a year my replacements are so strong the cover raises itself immediately after unlatching without touching it.
     
  14. uberlink

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    I got Stabilus from Amazon for my 308. They sill still lift the lid on their own more than a year on.
     
  15. mwr4440

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    My Stabilus struts did NOT have the Ferrari logo on them when I replaced them.
     
  16. DGS

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    #17 DGS, Aug 7, 2013
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    According to Ricambi's site, the 60592800 boot gas strut is used for the 308GTB/GTS, the 308QV, and the 328.
    60592800 HOOD STRUT : Ricambi America

    So a strut that works on the 308 should work for the 328, too.

    That's SGS engineering in the UK. SGSeng in the US deals with electric utility services.
     
  17. afterburner

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    The lifting pressure is marked as part of the row numbers on the Ferrari struts.
    If you have them rebuilt, they can just use that information to refill them correctly.
     
  18. cheesypeas

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    Just had my engine struts refilled by SGS engineering in the UK.

    I watched a youtube video which showed that struts like these are manufactured and then put in a pressurised container to fill them with nitrogen gas. I understand that SGS just repeats the filling procedure, they don't replace any parts. Cost is similar to replacing them with new Stabilus struts but I wanted to keep the Ferrari logo.

    Very easy to remove and refit the struts. Just make sure you prop the engine cover to the correct hight so that the pins are easy to remove and replace. The retaining clips can be removed by by pushing them off with a couple of flat bladed screwdrivers.

    SGS were professional. They filled and dispatched them the same day as they arrived. They rang me when the struts arrived and then after filling. The struts were down to 180 psi and they filled them to 300 psi.

    Fingers crossed that they hold the pressure for a few more years. :)
     
  19. Andrew McCrae

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    I found SGS to be excellent. Unfortunately 1 had failed completely. I too wanted to retain the logo.

    Mine were 350N force but for some reason Maranello don't do 350N but only 300N. The Stabilus part no for 350N is 361151. Most places were looking for over €100 each but I got on Amazon for under £20.
     
  20. Hinecker

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    Hello all,
    I had the same problem with my struts. Went to a local spare parts store and bought both for 30 Euros. If this is possible where you're located, take one of the old struts off, you will need to know length and pressure (ends of struts are supplied in different configurations... choose the right ones, they screw on the struts.
    Replaced mine 6 years ago...haven't had a problem since.

    Hope this helps.

    John.
     
  21. Gerry328

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    I had mine recharges at Italian Car Parts, so they still have the Ferrari logo.
     
  22. Saabguy

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    Was that in the US? When I checked in to having them refilled the cost was prohibitive because of the "Hazardous" label for shipping.

     
  23. Gerry328

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    I’m in metro Chicago and had then done a few years ago, shipping was not an issue. As I recall, I sent my old ones in and received recharged one back, easy.
     

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