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Discussion in '348/355' started by Ferrarium, Oct 13, 2021.

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  1. m.stojanovic

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  2. Ferrarium

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    Yep thats exactly right as the the root cause. Ordered a few new ones. Will chase threads with cutting oil and compressed air.

    Side note I think I replaced like 5 studs and every nut and bolt. Many bolts and nuts were damaged too. What do people do, use impact gun on everything? [emoji848]

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  3. Ferrarium

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    #353 Ferrarium, Nov 5, 2022
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    Threads cleaned up, had to waste 2 good bolts running them through after chasing them. Only 4 good bolts left. Don't want to run the chaser too far and go out the other side may not be able to threat it back in reverse if it goes all the way though and pops out the other side, so went most of the way and used a good bolt with cutting oil to get the last few threads. Bolts basically thread by hand now. Gets a bit tight last 1/4 of the hole but the threads are restored.
    Also you can order replacement washers of the correct type from https://www.mcmaster.com/. Original washers are crushed mostly flat, there is a slight curve left but are basically useless outside of being a spacer.

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    That's slightly annoying whoever had the engine out last just forced those in by not lining the subframe up properly. This is one part you don't want to be trying to rush.
    I always make sure I can screw them in by hand before using any tools.....

    But hey, you're getting so close now!!
     
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  6. Zamboniman308

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    Please take pics of it going back in with the quick jack setup. I'm trying to envision how to get it back in place and all bolts started with basically no clearance to get under there. Floor jacks etc.. makes for not a lot of room to work.

    I'm tempted to try this with a 355 since i don't trust my slab to a 2 post and i already have them.
     
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    ****ing awesome (love the engine top light):

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  8. Ferrarium

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    The garage has no lights. What your seeing is glow from the angels admirig it from above. [emoji3]

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    I never trusted the car from the prior majors. I do now and I am absolutely going to ruin with mileage. I'm going to literally daily driver it. 2 minute run up to the grocery store... take the 348.

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    There is nothing quite like seeing it at this stage, soooooo close!!
    There's not much to hook up from this point, 12 bolts on the front bulkhead, 4 bolts on the frame at the back, suspension tower bolts, handbrake cable, brake line, clutch line, ABS sensor plugs, ECU plugs through the bulkhead, battery connections, two water hoses, fuel lines, expansion tank hose, air filter and a few bits and pieces......oil filter, oil, coolant, bleed brakes and clutch.....

    Remember on your start up, do not let it idle, keep it up around 1500-1800rpm constantly until you get some heat into it.

    You have to do a start up video!!
     
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    LOL, yes I am using my 348 more than most probably do!! Quite addictive once you get over the initial "should I, or should I try to preserve it" phase...
     
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    Above idle, why is that, ecu has to learn and that's at idle till operating temp. Is that due to new head gaskets or something?
     
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    The procedure of running the engine at ~2000 rpm for the first ~20 min. is required when new camshafts are fitted so that they can be properly run-in. I don't think it is necessary with "old" cams. Of course, applying cam lube (or EP90 oil) for the start-up is a good practice.
     
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    You have had the camshafts out, I was always taught when I was an apprentice mechanic (yes I am a qualified mechanic as much as I hate to admit) to run the engine 1500-1800rpm, even if you have just had the old cams out as nothing reassembles exactly the same as much as we'd like to think it does. I know you used assembly lube, so that helps, but your engine has been dry for a while now so its good to get a bit of heat into it with full oil pressure.
    It doesn't need to be 20 mins, that's only if the cams are new.
    All you need to do is get some temp into it, watch the oil temp gauge and as soon as that starts showing a little bit of temp you're good, should only take 5-10mins or so.....
    I am not here to win a pissing contest, but I have built and rebuilt a lot of high hp engines and have never had one expire on me yet through normal use.
    Of course its up to you.
     
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    Switched from quick jack to floor jack method. After going down then back up one side was way lower than the other.
    So I used floor gacks and jack stands and removed quick Jack's.

    My floor is VERY uneven so the rear ved were too far back and high when the subframe flange was against the chassis. Took various tilting and lifting to get the 4 rear bolts in. 4 hours actually.

    Left side bulkhead bolts threaded by hand the right side is tight. Its actually very slight left/right that's tight. I precisely lifted the engine with bottle jacks, I welded on some wings for them when I made the dolly btw.

    I only have 4 good frame bolts out of 12 so I am waiting for more to show up, I'll wrestle with it then. I'll jack it up slightly and back out the dolly a foot or so to get better access after I get 4 or so bolts in. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login

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  17. Zamboniman308

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    Well that confirms my fears on the return trip with the quick jacks. At least you're back on track with the jack stands/ floor jack combo.. soo close.
     
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    I did my return trip with 3 floor jacks so I could control left right tilt and front to back tilt.

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    Yep, floor jack left and right of car and one in the back of the engine dolly. The rear jack was mandatory my engine NEVER would have gone in without it. Then 2 bottle jacks to fine tune height for the 12 bolts.
     
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    Ahhh heck sounds like a lot of fighting the universe... probably better to go back to a 2 post with dolly or a midrise scissor. There's a guy on Instagram that has a really trick dolly. Its threaded bolts on each corner so you can make fine adjustments to the alignment angle almost like a boat engine mount to align with a prop shaft.
     
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    Yep that how we do them here with 2 jacks, sometimes we remove the front bumper to get more of an angle

    Still have not tried out my lift but its good with a 4x8 plywood on it as a make shift bar LOL
     
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