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  1. staatsof

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  2. davidwhite

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    G'day Guys
    New on here , hoping for some help ! Where do i find the Vin number and ID tags on an Espada ? I believe the car is a 1974 series 3 !
    Thanks
    Dave
     
  3. LAEspada

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    On the Series 3 it should be on top of the air boxes running from the NACA ducts to the firewall, and very easy to find. At least, that's where they are on US models. Earlier S2s have a data plate affixed to the engine compartment on the driver's left side of the compartment between the aforementioned air box and the steering column.

    There is also a stamped number on the right side just forward of the wiper motor. It was stamped by Bertone into flat panel of the sheet metal and reads *0750*XXXX, the four-digit number being your linear build number (1-1217). Mine is 0263, meaning my car was the 263rd Espada built. See the attached pic, it's just below the air flap cable forward of the wiper motor and main bus bar.
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  4. davidwhite

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    Thanks for that LAEspada - if they are that easy to spot , it's not a good sign for this particular car , as they aen't there ! Not sure about the Bertone number , will check that ! This car is in Australia , but i don't know if it is a local delivery , or an import - if i can find some numbers i might be able to figure it out !
    Thanks again
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  6. davidwhite

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    Can anybody tell me if the Vin and tags would be located differently on an Australian delivered car or a Euro spec car ?
    Thanks
    Dave
     
  7. BJJ

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    #4132 BJJ, Jul 23, 2015
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    At least with the Ser. II, European version, the actual VIN stamp is on top of the right hand longitudinal chassis member before this joins the traverse chassis member behind the radiator. If you look onto this part of the chassis member, just adjacent of the distributor, you should see it (provided it is not covered by grime or paint).

    I do not know, whether RHD cars have a different location.

    Missing tags are no problem and may be bought and made by anyone. Any authority will (or should) only accept the actual stamp on the chassis member as proof of identity.
     
  8. davidwhite

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    Thanks BJJ , appeciate you help on that ! Our local registration authorities are a bit anal on stuff like that , but my main concern at the moment is to identify the car , and if the tags are missing , to find out why ! Once i can establish what it is , and what it should be , i might be able to figure out if it is worth trying to save it ! Any other input from anyone is more than welcome !
    Cheers
    Dave
     
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    Former swiss car, olivier do you have delivery information?
    I have only the advertisement text from carclassic.
     
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    There was a nice white/red Espada S11 entered into Coys auction in Germany on Saturday, guided at €140-160,000. Anybody know what it sold for? Coys are the slowest of all at putting their auction results up...
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  12. Olivier NAMECHE

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    here is :

    Telaio #9030
    Motore #41051
    Bertone body carrozzeria #819
    Colore : Bleu Metallizato / Senape
    Consegna : 19/04/1973
    Cliente : Righetti dealer - Italia

    MATCHING NUMBERS
     
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    ...yes this is always the case, maybe they like to include their post auction negotiated sales in the auction sales stats...
     
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    Always nice to see Philippe.
     
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    Love the white on white.
     
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    Just an info : I'll offer for sale soon a part of my remaining vintage Lambo parts on the FerrariAds section.
    For the one potentially interested - just have a look...
     
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    I am having the interior of my early SII redone with new leather. For this purpose I need to remove the dash. The instrument cluster and the central console are removed already. Does anyone know where the dash is fixed to the body? Are there other fixings than the three screws at each side? Thanks in advance for any info.
     
  20. chriskindl

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    Only the the three screws on each side, thats it. Pay attention on the glove box clapper, heating&air cables, and the upper air supply ducts are connected to the air box.
    Good Luck
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  21. staatsof

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    Hi, Bernhard

    You should probably be in touch with Bob H. and Laust on VLG about this. They've dealt with the dash and gauges and steering column removal for a variety of reasons frequently. There are others on VLG who have completed this just last year such as Gus Henslick. But this is better covered on the Yahoo VLG. Some people just don't go over to the new website. Can't make them ...

    Seat perforations and other issues with the front seats have been discussed as well.

    Best of luck.

    Bob S.
     
  22. BJJ

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    Ah, thanks a lot! They already are cumbersome enough :D. On the early SII the cables for air distribution are easy, since they are right of the steering column and pleasant to remove, in contrast to the later version with the three levers in the center console. The air ducts to the windscreen are easily disconnected by prying of the short rubber hoses between the studs.
     
  23. BJJ

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    Hi Bob, thanks!

    On VLG there even is a description in the resources. It however lacks an identification of to which series it relates (although I would suspect Ser. II).

    The VLG users are a great bunch of fellows, many with brilliant engineering expertise. I love it.

    I do not have access to the Yahoo group, since I refuse to register with one of those large "social" network companies (no Facebook etc. either, enthusiasts run platforms like VLG is something very different). I know, we Germans are sometimes regarded as paranoic :D.

    The leatherwork is done by Mr. Ehleitner, who has been recommended to my by various persons, Ferrarichat users among them.

    By the way, one can save a lot of time and efforts by taking shortcuts. E.g. after having replaced the speedo cable, I simple left away the four nuts from the bolts fixing the instrument cluster. It is firmly held anyway. And for reaching behind, it may simply be pulled out in seconds, great. If a perfectionist intends to buy the car in some decades in the future, then I might consider refitting these nuts :D. Or if such guy tries to push the price :D.
     
  24. BJJ

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    Made it yesterday evening, juhu.

    In my car additional screws were underneath and behind the glove box (2) and underneath the dash, left of the steering column (1). The steering column needs to be in the lowest position (which I had adjusted anyway). The steering wheel must be off, of course. The rubber hoses of the upper air supply need to be removed completely, otherwise there is no chance to pull the dash.

    Cheers, Bernhard
     

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