Espada thread

Maybe, the price I noted was that indicated by Classic Driver, but perhaps that was an estimate.

Even if this car had cost twice, i.e. about 20 k€, that would imho have been worth that just for the parts, if it was complete.

Maybe the auction house had taken bids "of the wall", a somewhat common practice. I would always want to have a clear view over the audience at least, if bidding, in order to see whether there indeed is a person bidding somewhere near to where the auctioneer is pointing ... . Of course you will never have a chance to notice whether a telephone bidder is actually real .... . I am sure that many after auction sales are due to a "bidder" allegedly having "backed off" and the car then being offered to the next (and real) bidder ...

Cheers, Bernhard

 

It was Peter K. who wanted that Espada oh so terribly.

 

Mike, the parcel is on its way, hope the contents is of use for you.

Cheers, Bernhard

 

So, today I visited this handbag manufacturer Handbags in leather | Design: Timeless Elegant Sophisticated Made in Berlin - Olbrish Produkt GmbH. They have their production site here in Berlin, no Chinese outsourcing of labor or the like. I also was led around in the factory, very impressive.

They will make two handbags from a hide not used for my Espada interior. In the model shown in the below picture they will inset a stripe with the seat perforations. So this will be not only be a unique handbag in 70s Lamborghini verde scuro, but even more unique and identifiable by a knowledgable person as an Espada related product because of the seat perforation element. Pricing of these "one-offs" is very reasonable, by the way.

Cheers, Bernhard
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One of the early S1 was displayed & for sale at Essen, #7018 the 7th produced, it is in very well condition as you can see...

I also heard about #7006, the 3rd produced, that I will discover very soon...
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Imho this practice of a specific German dealer to place a "signature" on the hood (besides the embleme) is silly. It neither justifies the prices asked . Just another "minor issue", of course .

Cheers, Bernhard

P.S.: Some time ago I was interested in a car on offer by this dealer. My outfit was not "ratty". I felt that the sales persons exhibit some arrogance, as if I should be happy that they exchange words with me. None of the sales persons was able to tell me the asking price, allegedly only the boss knew this (and he was said to be busy at the moment). Perhaps they just refrained from commenting "If you need to ask, you are too poor to buy such a car". Strange and for me a reason to avoid future contacts.

Cheers, Bernhard

 

I have for sale a ORIGINAL pezzi di ricambio in like new condition.

 

I have always been told that wealth, or indeed the lack of it, is reflected in the state of ones shoes! Was your footwear up to standard I wonder?..

 

That was perhaps the problem, I did not wear my welt-sewn street shoes, but instead driving shoes of some age .... .

I normally look damned ....... average . Should presumably have taken my wife along for compensating this .... .

Cheers, Bernhard

I do not dare to ask for how much? Today I am wearing nice welt-sewn shoes ....

 

Hi Folks,

I’m looking for a set of KANGOL seatbelts, they were fitted either in Espada or in Jarama.

Does someone hold one or do you know a link to a set for sale ?

Thanks,
Olivier – LCB

 

Olivier,

Do you need static or automatic ones? Two or three-point?

My Jarama has static two-point, the Espada automatic three point, both 1970 cars.

Kangol seatbelts were fitted to various contemporary British car makes, you might find ones from dealers handling these makes.

Cheers, Bernhard
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I don't know what to suggest to my fellow, as I had in my 2x Jarama GTS the 3 points static...

His demand, here is for a Jarama GT front & rear seats, I was thinking to suggets him 3 points automatic on front and 2 points static for rear seats.

What will you suggest ?

 

Hi Olivier,

Hm, my (early) GT has 2 point front and none rear.

But considering safety 3 points are by far better, of course. I believe to remember having looked for a mounting thread in the B-pillar long ago, but not finding one. I refrained from trying to fit some kind of anchor plate, so that I have the 2 point setup in the front only. In the rear 3 point (if you manage to create an anchor point in the C pillar, I would be really surprised if the factor had provided such) would look rather unpleasant, I would suppose.

If his car has a mounting thread in the B pillar, I would recommend exactly that what you said.

Cheers, Bernhard

 

try

vintageeuroparts.com

back when I did my espada I got a set from them for the front seats . Kangol stickers , if theirs are not nice , can be had on ebay

regards

Gary
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I have them in my Espada and have never been able to figure out how they're supposed to work? On mine at least they don't latch they just "sort of lay together"?

They just seem like absolute rubbish to me from a safety standpoint?

Has anyone replaced these with a modern new setup that has an automatic reel mounted I would guess on the floor?

 

S1 #7359 in Need of much work
LAMBORGHINI Espada Serie 1, Occasion, 85'000 km, CHF 250'000.-

 

Although apparently not replaced, in my Espada is an automatic with "normal" mechanical lock. The reel is near the floor. I do not recall the make, would have to look it up. The automatic is very "sensitive", sometimes it takes several attempts until I have managed to pull it out far enough.

Cheers, Bernhard

 

Looking at the photos it seems to be a nice car and I would not see the "need of much work", if I assume that engine and transmission are still OK.

"Condition 4" is (according to Classic Data): worn out condition, limited driver, immediate work required, small to medium rust holes (means you can poke your finger through), parts missing or defect, easy to restore (imho a car with rust holes rarely is "easy to restore").

Looking at the price I would believe that the description "condition 4" is rather to avoid any liability issues, "conservative" indication of the condition avoids any disputes with a buyer claiming that the car is not as good as described in the advert.

Presumably brakes, suspension, ignition, carbs, etc. will need reconditioning, but this can also be the case with a car advertized as very good or excellent.

Cheers, Bernhard

P.S.: After import to Germany this car would cost in total more than 270 k€ (1 CHF = 0,91 €, 19% VAT, no duty).

 

Then it's rather a state 3, it's running but needs a restoration, or you use it as a driver in this state, but for such the price is quite strong.

 

For enjoying (= using) a classic car I personally prefer condition "2", because then you will not be psyched, if a fly ***** onto the bumper . Typically my classic cars oscillate over the years between 2/3 and 2+, depending on the state of (mechanical) service/repairs needed. I quote e.g. an engine never better than "2", if it has run some time, even if no problems are evident. Because a "1" would be a freshly rebuilt engine, until it is run in, maybe, and no longer. I consider a perfectly (!) restored car not "1", if 3 or 4 years have passed since the restauration, because e.g. a 4 years old tire is "2" at best (same with all other rubber parts).

Would a car in the range 2/3 to 2+ also qualify as "needs a restauration" under US practice?

Cheers, Bernhard

P.S.: "Restauration" means to me to take it all (!) apart and recondition or renew everything not being perfect. Less would be "partial repair" in my eyes ...

 

I just acquired an Espada (#8155) and am having problems with the distributor. It appears that the centrifugal advance is not working properly. It starts up and idles fine but will not rev up.

The distributor is a Magneti Marelli - number 5010 219 1 15

Can anyone provide some guidance? I am thinking of having it rebuilt and I am thinking of just going to a MSD conversion. Any ideas are welcome and suggestions on who can do a rebuild.

 

I would clean the (probably) dried up grease off of the weights & make sure nothing inside the cap has frozen. They are very basic.

 

These are certainly service prone as in lack of adequate service distributors. I would encourage you to search this thread further regarding distributors as numerous folks have gone down this road before you, also in the Ferrari community. The distributors are very similar with the very same issues. Basically you probably want to gain access to a distributor machine either via friend as I did or professionally. Fortunately mine was not unduly worn and so cleaning and lubrication restored the advance curve function adequately. That is not always the case and that is the first thing you should address. After that something like a Pertronix conversion (kits are available) will eliminate the need for points adjustment in the future. That will also require a distributor machine to set up accurately. There are are also other direct digital solutions bypassing the distributor entirely. I suggest a trip over the the VLG websites for more info - just google.

Bob S.

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I have posted on VLG. Pertronix has told me they do not make a conversion kit for this model (5010 219 1 15). After I get it working properly where would I find points, a rotor and a cap? I have not found a source yet for parts for this model distributor.