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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by fchatid, Oct 16, 2016.

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  1. fchatid

    fchatid Rookie

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    #1 fchatid, Oct 16, 2016
    "Tougher European car emissions tests being introduced in the wake of the Volkswagen (VOWG_p.DE) scandal are about to bring surprising consequences: bigger engines.

    Carmakers that have spent a decade shrinking engine capacities to meet emissions goals are now being forced into a costly U-turn, industry sources said, as more realistic on-the-road testing exposes deep flaws in their smallest motors.

    Renault, General Motors and VW are preparing to enlarge or scrap some of their best-selling small car engines over the next three years, the people said. Other manufacturers are expected to follow, with both diesels and gasolines affected."

    Exclusive: Carmakers forced back to bigger engines in new emissions era | Reuters
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    #2 greyboxer, Oct 16, 2016
  3. TheMayor

    TheMayor Ten Time F1 World Champ
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  4. Joshman0531

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    #4 Joshman0531, Oct 16, 2016
    twin turbo v-12s for everyone!!!
     
  5. Mitch Alsup

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    #5 Mitch Alsup, Oct 16, 2016
    Big engines turning over slowly is good for both power and emissions.

    The turning over slowly part is where Ferrari should not go.
     
  6. dud

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    #6 dud, Oct 16, 2016
    It will help. Cheating on emissions by exploiting the test cycles that are in place tight now (not counting outright software cheating) is a lot easier with turbos since the ECU has more parameters to play with to cripple the car precisely when the test cycles consumption will notice it and the user is least affected.

    A more realistic test cycle will lose that particular advantage for the turbo and will make the game a bit more even.

    More and more governments also see the light and don't tax based on displacement. Even the Germans did once. Right now China is the main problem here. But China has actual smog problems and they are willing to do something about smog to reduce smog, not to appease voters. My bet is that they get rid of displacement taxes quickly. IIRC they partially moved to horsepower already.

    Taxing by horsepower is also benefitting turbo engine, though, since they can fill the lower rpms below peak horsepower with more torque and get a big performance advantage (real and test-driving perceived) out of the turbo.
     

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