348 Evolving A Future Classic

https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/modified-ferrari-f355-evoluto-automobili/amp/

Looks cool if it materializes and isn't too pricey.

 

https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/peak-analogue.594659/

I do not think it is real its all Photoshop at this point and not sure how you get to 2000 lbs.

 

This is no way happening. Even the renders are half assed. The concepts shown are just other Ferrari model design elements tacked on a comically widened F355.

The front bar features 575 brake ducts inverted which would make the central bumper opening a waste of time. The side air outlets on front bumper are inverted 430 ducts, the rear bumper slots are taken from the 288 GTO the front bonnet slits from a 328 and serve zero purpose, the rear lights are 812 super fast etc etc.

 

Looks cool to me. However, you should ask the Mods here to change your thread's category.

 

While the goals are ambitious, it brings up a good point. Why not a perfect 348? Why not the perfect 355? What would that scope be?

Singer didn't start it, but IMO, Singer perfected an "every detail is important" artwork. Their evolution of a platform, a vision beyond Porsche with the introduction of the Williams engine. ICON is building the 'perfect' FJ, and some other crazy cool stuff...

So why not a Ferrari? There seem to be plenty of cars out there in 348/355 land, and with the meteoric rise of 911 prices comparable to a few of the cars out there...why not? I'm sure there's plenty of anti-purists, and people who'd want a (cough) reliable 348.

So why not a Ferrari? Evolutionary elements. They seem to be only drawing from newer cars. Porsche made the same car from the 60's to almost the 90s. Singer had all of the high points from all of those years to draw upon for the final design. Why else would you use a hood that was last made in 1973? Because everyone wants a longhood. So how do you do that with Ferrari? I think that only the most subtle styling changes should be made. The critical element for any project like this would be to weed out the "bad". What was bad about it? What do people hate about it? Correct those things, and make a more brilliant car than it already is, and you've got a winner.

sjd

 

What is great about Singer is the subtlety of the improvements, the historic context of the modifications derived from the 911 design over time, the fanatical care and (most significantly) restraint towards maintaining an oem cohesiveness to how improvements and changes were integrated. It establishes plausibility that the Singer result is bespoke Porsche product, not a modification, should the factory have been so inclined. Therein lies the value that raises a Singer above other aftermarket builders. The antithesis to this, aesthetically, would be a RWB 911.

This Ferrari-evo, while admirable to aspire towards what Singer has done, fails in the sense that it does not originate from the same philosophy, or at least not with the same depth of understanding and application. Part of that is due to the comparatively brief time that the 348 was developed relative to the 911, so iterative period development is non-existent. The planned design execution is not subtle refinement towards what would plausibly be a factory-bespoke 348. It presents itself as one of two other things... at best, a factory new model unidentifiable to what it originally was, or at worst an expensively bodykitted modernized mid-90s Ferrari which screams 'I am aftermarket!'.

 

I like it. I hope it does not end up looking like a wide body kit on those 458 that are “trying too hard...

Robb

 

I started to write something along a similar line, but you summed it up far more eloquently and made my potential post irrelevant. The Singers are fantastic in their subtlety and execution.

 

The link states:

Evoluto Automobili aims to do for the Ferrari 348 what Singer does for the air-cooled Porsche 911. In its own words, it wants to ‘evolve a future classic’.​

so in theory it's labeled correctly....

 

Yes, I know. But it shouldn't be exclusive to the 348, as currently categorized.

Should be neither e.g. see Randy's thread.


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I've dreamed about doing this ever since first seeing what Singer was putting out.

Not a fan of the rendering personally...but I like the concept behind what they're trying to do.

 

Very well put. Lacking the ability to pull together the best cosmetic and functional features from a wide range of generations, the way Singer does to 964 donor cars, I think a more measured half-Singer would make more sense. Keep it closer to a normal f355 in design, lighten it a bit, improve all the materials (which don’t hold up nearly as well with 25 year old Ferraris as they do in 25 year old Porsches), put in some fastidiously designed details, improve the engine reliability and you could have a business that turns $80k F355s into $250-300K specialist cars. But I don’t see the same opportunity to create the penultimate, ”best of the various air cooled generations and then improve it some more on top of that” air cooled 911 that gets priced at 10x the value of the donor car.

 

The main problem is that singer has 4 decades of design items to choose from or swap on the 911 - the same model.

A singer 355 would have to cross other models to borrow design items (like switches, etc) as the 348/255 spans 10 years. Dino parts don’t just bolt right up.

Robb

 

more info on PistonHeads:
https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/evolutos-peak-analogue-ferrari-348/39795

 

Ugh. Singer cars are beautiful at least. This seems like a step back from the perfect 348/355 proportions.

At least no real cars were hurt in the making of these renderings.

 

Singer Porches are beautiful. Every inch of it. A true display of the meaning “Art in simplicity.” A gentleman’s sports car. A car that is much more than what it displays on the outside.

This just seems to be a re-body. A pretentious 348/355. No thanks, I’ll take a standard 355.

 

Looks like the work of a bored teenager during Econ class.

And to think that idiot compared it to Singer.

 

If they wanted an upgraded 348, Ferrari already made one...So why not start with that?

 

give me a 355 any day, you cant beat perfection

 

I’m not into modding Ferrari’s at all; until I saw this article.

That is s seriously nice looking car. I hope they are equally tasteful on the inside.

Imaging a modern analogue manual Ferrari. Nobody would want one of those would they? Hell yes...if I hAd the money, take my 348 and crack on!!!

 

I don't want the F355 to feel like another ugly modern day Ferrari. Singer Porsche is retro styling with modern day quality. The only proper retro styling for the F355 that can command any type of premium is to make it feel like an F40. 348 GT Competizione is a great example. Alfaholic Alfas are another great example.

https://petrolicious.com/articles/the-ferrari-348-gt-competizione-is-a-rare-beast

https://www.alfaholics.com/our-cars/completed-builds/gta-r-project-270/alfaholics-gta-r-290-completed/

 

Exactly! Ferrari has already shown how to do this properly and tastefully. The F355 doesn’t need body mods. It should just follow the steps of lighter, lower, stiffer - more race inspired.

 

I don't think that car will ever be built.

Having said that, I am all in favor of customizing and hot rodding a 348. Stock sucks! Further more that rendering looks way better than what Zagato did to the 348 back in the day. The Keonig F48 wasn't my cup of tea either. The Veil Side 348 was an okay modification, but a bit long in the tooth now. The RWB RAUH-Welt 348 is a pretty clean modification. Time will tell if they ever build it.

 

I'm no stranger to modifying cars by any means. I can put together a modified car just as good as anyone. What I can't stand are these one-dimensional tuners who only focus on putting together "hard-parked" cars. A proper sports cars shouldn't be relegated to a "hard parked" car. Some car niches are meant for hard-parking, most aren't.

 

YUK! - Looks like a bloated kit-car!