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F1 355 or not?

Discussion in '348/355' started by godabitibi, Jan 11, 2012.

  1. godabitibi

    godabitibi F1 Veteran
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    Hi guys! I'm new here. I'm a 1977 308GTB owner since 2000 and love the car and looking to upgrade to a 355 F1. Should I do it? Are the 355 hard to maintain? I do ALL my work myself as I live in a far area from any large city. Can I diagnose the car with a regular scan tool for OBDII or not. Is the F1 troublesome or a good transmission? Should I go with a 6 speed manual? Any info is welcome. Thank you all!
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    Whilst you are probably the first to ask this year your question comes up every few days (it feels like) so it'd be worth your while doing a search on '355 buying' or '355 guide' and read some of the threads that look promising to get some background
     
  3. Labman

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    Plenty of issues with the 355's. Esp the F1's (like mine) but I absolutely love my car. There is a wealth of information on this forum. Just do a search. Most guys will probably lean toward a gated shifter though. I like the feel of an F1 and it makes mine feel like more of a modern Ferrari. But that's just my two cents. Good liuck!!
     
  4. White Knight

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    For working on your own car, I'd say go with the gated 6-speed. Your mileage may vary...
     
  5. full_garage

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    First Ferrari? look for a 6 speed exclusively.

    I have the F1 on my 355 and I'm really, really pleased with the car- But everyone has to have a Ferrari gated shifter at some point in their life.
     
  6. WATSON

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    I learned a lot about the F1 system and it's weaknesses by doing searches on this site. I have numerous subscribed threads that detail the system and repairs / faults.

    I love the F1 system in my car and wanted one because I have enough three pedal auto's already. To each his own.

    Take some time and do the research....then decide for yourself.
     
  7. 2NA

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    The gearbox and clutch of an F1 car is virtually the same as a "6-speed" car, it's the fancy whizbang control part that is different. While they are fairly reliable, if you do have a real problem there might be no economical way to fix it yourself. Your OBDII scan tool won't help you with it. A more sophisticated, dedicated tool like an SD1 is required even for replacing the clutch or bleeding the system.
     
  8. godabitibi

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    Full garage I allreay own a 5 speed 308 for 12 years now. But after reading some of the thread here I think I will look for a gated shifter. The tools needed to service those things are out of my range. I hope the engine is easier to work with. Are these cars OBDII like ALL cars should be after 1996? My weber 308 is so easy to work maybe I should just keep it.
     
  9. mike_747

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    I recently heard that is costs $40,000 for the scan tool for the F1 system. Some independent shops don't have this due to the cost.
     
  10. yelcab

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    No F1 for me. Ever. If that means I don't drive newer Ferraris, well, so be it.
     
  11. 2NA

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    Very few independent shops have one.
     
  12. WATSON

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    That's not completely true. There are procedures to do both of those repairs with in car resets that do not require the SD computer.
     
  13. godabitibi

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    Thank you guys! It was very short as a decision but I'm allready set. I'll be looking for a 6 speed. I own my 308 for 12 years now and really enjoy the car. I just sold another convertible and wanted to buy a 355 convertible to replace both cars as I have a friend who wants my 308. More info about the 355 engine is welcome too.
     
  14. notoboy

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    Happy hunting ;)

    I agree that a 6-speed is the better choice for a 355. There are tons of threads on here about the 355 and all of it's problems so with a little searching, you can find all of them. Just make sure to get a full PPI (Pre Purchase Inspection) with a leakdown test before you buy any 355.
     
  15. full_garage

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    To each his own- I now have the system on my 355 and my Maserati Spyder- and one of the great driving thrills is downshifitng into a fast sweeping corner with both hands on the wheel...never missing a beat....
     
  16. 2NA

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    Time for "show and tell".
     
  17. WATSON

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    #17 WATSON, Jan 11, 2012
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    It is referenced twice in the WSM's. I have read them cover to cover several times. Bradan actually walked through this with me over the phone.

    WSM Book #2 - Section D - Page 41. It starts as noted below.

    Too much mystery about the F1 system. If people really understand it, it is not that big of a deal. My pump was replaced with a 360 version before I got the car...but that pump failed for some reason. I put in a new one in in an afternoon and it cost me $595.00. It's not as bad as everyone would have you believe.
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  18. Extreme

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    Although I just bought my 355 F1 I'm loving it. Something different than that standard 3 pedal.
    If it ever breaks (knock on wood) I might be singing a different tune.
     

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