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F12 or 488GTB to partner 991.2 GT3 ?

Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by hergiswilreid, Jun 10, 2019.

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  1. hergiswilreid

    hergiswilreid Rookie

    Aug 21, 2011
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    Hi everyone,

    Need some thoughts from any of you who have gone through the following (thought) process. Apologies for the lengthy background below...

    I’ve had a number of F cars (F430, 458 Spider, now 488 GTB, which I bought new a year ago) and Porsches (981 Cayman S, 991.2 GTS, now 991.2 GT3). I live in a part of Scotland where I can drive these cars properly (think F12 on Top Gear) at the weekend and so I don’t ever feel the need to track them. The GT3 has it over the 488 when it comes to emotion (primarily sound) and the ‘thrill of driving’, so I am seriously contemplating swapping the 488 for an F12 to give me a complete contrast to the GT3 and give me the V12 noise. But it’s a big leap in money for me (essentially a one year depreciation hit of GBP 45k on the 488) and part of me wonders whether the F12 will do anything for me that the GT3 can’t. Anyone had to contemplate this or have a view, having owned a GT3 and an F car at the same time ? I work hard for my money, so don’t want to throw my hard earned at the Ferrari dealership. 812 is out of my price range. Thanks.
     
  2. Condor Man

    Condor Man Formula 3

    Sep 8, 2006
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    Having done a heap of miles in my F12 then selling it. To me, my 488 is sort of stuck in the middle of the 2 cars, it does have a heap of power it's just that the turbo makes it feel artificial. If I had a GT3 I would definitely go with the F12 for the contrast and the sound is truly amazing.
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  3. hergiswilreid

    hergiswilreid Rookie

    Aug 21, 2011
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    Thanks very much for the insight. That’s kind of what I was thinking. I think an F12 and GT3 could be two keepers.
     
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  4. LVP488

    LVP488 Formula 3

    Jan 21, 2017
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    Only drawback of the F12 is its weight if you wish to track it - but since you can track the GT3, the F12 is definitely the best choice to complement it. The V12 is something to worship.
     
  5. gilly6993

    gilly6993 Formula 3

    Aug 20, 2009
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    I have a .1 RS....Owned a 458 and now a V12 Lusso. Drove a 488 and F12. There is no thinking about the decision I would make. An F12


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  6. Andial

    Andial Karting

    Jun 19, 2016
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    The F12 is the last normal production naturally aspirated front engine V12 from Ferrari designed by Pininfarina. That alone makes it a keeper, unlike the 488 GTB which has already succeeded by the F8 Tributo.
     
  7. min3040

    min3040 Rookie

    Dec 5, 2015
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    I sold my 488 and gt3 touring last year. Right now I have 458s, F12 and 997.2 gt3rs. I am so glad that I added F12 to my collection. F12 is not as nimble as my other cars but it feels like super muscle car with crazy sound and power. And, she handles beautiful as Ferrari supposed to be. I think it is different driving experience compare to 458 or gt3.


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  8. cavsct94

    cavsct94 Karting

    Aug 26, 2013
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    With the GT3, I'd say definitely the F12.
     
  9. sl55

    sl55 Karting

    Dec 26, 2009
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    Scottsdale AZ
    F12 would complement well, but you also mention depreciation hit on the 488, That is not an easy one. It is really up to you in terms of what that 40-50K is going to bring you.

    Of course as other mentioned, the F12 would complement the GT3 greatly, but the F12 is also a generation "older" then the 488, think electronics, cabin etc.

    Is it worth swapping? really up to you. Not sure why you would get those 2 cars together in the first place. Maybe a 488 Spyder would make more sense?

    I am waiting for my F12 to be delivered next Monday, I really liked the car, the engine, the sound...

    Basically - the 488 depreciation is happening no matter what or when, today or tomorrow and it is going to be unpleasant and probably worst as the next F8 comes out. The F12 is going to be better, depreciation wise.

    Therefore I say: get the F12
     
  10. GameMaker

    GameMaker Formula Junior
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    Apr 17, 2014
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    F12 all the way. It's great for driving on real roads.
     
  11. therryzsx

    therryzsx Formula Junior

    Dec 2, 2011
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    do you think that in next ten years market value of 458 will be higher than 488?
     
  12. Eilig

    Eilig Formula 3

    Aug 31, 2001
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    Would always encourage to buy car based on what you LIKE DRIVING rather than what you speculate its future value will be... With rare exceptions, cars don't represent good "investments."
     
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  13. hergiswilreid

    hergiswilreid Rookie

    Aug 21, 2011
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    Thanks everyone for your thoughts. I went the F12 route and have a ‘17 plate Grigio Ferro example with sports seats, so I can still feel like I am in a sports car, as well as a GT. I drove it home from the dealer in Edinburgh on the same route Clarkson took the F12 on Top Gear - except I had blue skies and warm roads (see picture). Absolutely epic - just me and a bunch of fast bikes and no speed cameras or police to worry about. I forgot about the depreciation hit on the 488 in about 2 minutes...
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  14. Eilig

    Eilig Formula 3

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    WOW she's gorgeous, big hearty congrats!!! (love GF, as that's my fav color)
     
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  15. KarlA69

    KarlA69 Karting

    Oct 9, 2017
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    Quick question about the F12... were there any material updates during the life such that one should look out for certain production years?

    Eg. Don’t suppose they fixed the paint bubble issue in later years..?
     
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