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F12 Paint Bubbling Poll

Discussion in 'FF/GTC4Lusso/F12/812S' started by rockitman, Jul 14, 2018.

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Has your F12 Paint Bubbled (corroded) around vents, doors or rear of car ?

  1. yes, I have or have had bubbling

    18 vote(s)
    38.3%
  2. no, I have not noticed any paint bubbling

    29 vote(s)
    61.7%
  1. Eilig

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    I was going to buy an F12 until I learned of this issue. Now I've decided to steer clear.
     
  2. ttforcefed

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    That's a little nuts. Great car u can still enjoy. If u keep it 5 yrs it's inconsequential. If you keep it 50 yrs just fix it. Not like an essential organ failing.

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  3. ricmat

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    Well, I don’t think it’s a little nuts. It’s a pricey car. If this keeps happening outside warranty and you need 5k to repaint/sort the problem from time to time, then clearly becomes a significant problem very quickly




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  4. ttforcefed

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    It's a 400k car. 5 to10k issues/events will be par for the course.


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  5. ricmat

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    Well, I guess 2 points as many have said - first, indeed in a 400k car these are issues one shouldn’t even see
    And second - It used to be... not anymore. There are plenty now in the 190ks / low 200s and as usual, prices will keep trending lower




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  6. MatNZ

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    I have had my 2017 F12 for 8 weeks now and use it as a daily driver. No issues as yet, and my previous car AMG GTS was brilliant and did the Top Gear track in 1min 17.4 and the F12 1.17.3 so not much in it. I prefer my F12 for its styling, power and driveability.

    I knew about the paint issues and still bought it - no regrets.
     
  7. SAFE4NOW

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    #57 SAFE4NOW, Aug 21, 2018
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  8. SAFE4NOW

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    FWIW today's spot check of F12's in the shop , none of them have any signs of corrosion:

    12245
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    95935
    00302
    97956

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  10. Eilig

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    Is that a triple layer paint? Does the car get driven in the rain?
     
  11. lamborarri

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    my last F12 had a 1.5 inch crack on the paint next to the rear intake on the quarter panel...
     
  12. Andy348

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    As they say, the car depreciates but the parts do not. This is (in part) what causes that steep depreciation - knowing the likelihood of $10-20K repairs and the possibility of a $50K repair.
     
  13. Alexfor8

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    You can take 19427 off the list, it has started bubbling
     
  14. SAFE4NOW

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    Paint is Grigio Silverstone Fer - PPG - 740

    Has it been in the rain, yes.
    Is it driven in the rain regularly, no
    Did it have full body clear shield , yes

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  15. SAFE4NOW

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    Not sure of the context of your estimated repairs ( maybe mechanical ) but paint repairs for the rear 1/4 vents that I have seen range from as low as $2500 to as high as $ 7500

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  16. SAFE4NOW

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    Ugh, well there you go then!

    Let us know when you would like to get it handled. Warranty expires 8/2019 so we have some time to make it happen!

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  17. clockem

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    Curious, has anyone asked the dealer to discuss issue with FNA or Ferrari Italy and see if this is abnormal and that Ferrari should stand behind it to repair? Mine is in storage and when I get to the storage facility I will have to look if I have this issue. Thanks.
     
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  18. Alexfor8

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    Will do. It has always been very easy to deal with Ferrari warranty, seems to be "no questions asked".
     
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  19. SAFE4NOW

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    It absolutely has been " discussed " w. FNA / SpA and while there are some here that say that a majority of the F12's they see have it, as a whole it is not a common occurrence. Now, I have offered a sampling of chassis numbers for reference. I certainly have not included all chassis that I have seen , but it for perspective, and for tracking purposes in the thread. Alexfor8 as an example, the last time I saw his car in person, it was not showing any signs of imperfections, but now it is.

    Ferrari stands behind their product , they offer a 3 year warranty, another 2 years of warranty extension, and up to 15 years of warranty options year to year.
    Owners have some buy in and I can speak from personal experience, that Ferrari takes care of their clients who take care of their Ferrari's, have an established relationship, and continue to be brand advocates.

    2nd or 3rd owner , never been serviced by a dealership , has no established relationship w. a dealership, never purchased a warranty ( listed above ) and takes digs on Ferrari whenever given the chance, yeah... not so much.

    My personal opinion and personal experience , FWIW

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  20. WilliamB

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    I had discovered a few small bubbles at one of the rear windows (bottom) and reported that. Agreed was to redo that part of the chassis during the 'winter break', so it was done! All under guarantee, even when I am a second owner. I have a second car from the same dealer, but do not know who in the end paid for it.
    So nothing but happy!
     
  21. Condor Man

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    My f12 in Grigio Silverstone bubbled on the front of the bonnet. Very annoying and disappointing imo.

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