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F12 tdf market price thread

Discussion in 'F12/812' started by Ferrari 308 Vetro, Nov 9, 2015.

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  1. 635CSI

    635CSI F1 Rookie
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    I am hoping prices lag right up until I buy one ;)
     
  2. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

    Aug 17, 2019
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    If you planning to buy one now is the time before spring/summer, before people start to realise 812comp are selling at 2m dollars ( they sell at that price in europe and us).a delivery mileage tdf in the us ( grigio silverstone) was just listed at about £1.4m.
     
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  3. Eilig

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  4. plastique999

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    That’s a great deal for a 700 mile TDF!


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  5. Condor Man

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    Interesting Auction.

    At first it was a no sale and then it came together a couple of hours later.

    I though that this car was cheap given the providence. I am not sure about the emissions and which countries it could be sent to though.
     
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  6. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    This car is a pre-series. Does anyone understand what exactly that means an why it sels so cheap compared to a regular tdf?
     
  7. JackCongo

    JackCongo Formula Junior
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    Dec 22, 2006
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    My understanding is that it cannot be registered anywhere appart from Somalia… but I may be wrong.
     
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  8. Condor Man

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    And there in lies the problem!


    May the Horse be with you
     
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  9. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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  10. ppg70

    ppg70 Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2017
    930
  11. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    Is this price inclusive of taxes? And do you know how much the commission is? Well under the estimate
     
  12. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    Their website says auction still live? Has it actually sold?
     
  13. mepassione

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    From the terms and conditions of sale on the website it says the final sale prices includes taxes ( vat) and the buyer agree to pay the buyer’s tax at 19.2% so i assume the total purchase price is the whatever the final sale price will be ( which includes taxes) plus 19.2%
     
  14. ppg70

    ppg70 Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2017
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  15. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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  16. ppg70

    ppg70 Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2017
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    yes normally on the commission VAT is applicable
     
  17. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    It seems the car hasn’t sold. Would be interesting to know the high bid
     
  18. ppg70

    ppg70 Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2017
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    where did you see that it hasn't sold?
    I followed the auction and the car was sold in my understanding

    by the way the high bid was 1.075.000€
     
  19. mepassione

    mepassione Formula Junior

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    It shows “passed” rather than sold on the website so i assume it did not meet reserve
    1075000 +premium means high bid was in excess of 1.2mm euros ( nearly £1.1mm). The seller was probably expecting around 1.3mm eur plus premium
     
  20. Enzo Anselmo Ferrari

    Enzo Anselmo Ferrari Formula Junior

    Apr 4, 2009
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    It wasn’t sold. Artcurial has a specific sentencing. When they sell the car they say « adjugé », when not sold They say « j’adjuge » , it’s like saying « I close the bids » when not sold and « I accept the bid » when sold.
    The car was not sold at 1,075M€
     
  21. ppg70

    ppg70 Formula Junior

    Aug 22, 2017
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    btw no-one was willing to offer more than 1,075M€ that is more or less the same money offer for the last two Tdf auctioned in Arizona and Munich
    I don't consider the yellow one of Paris since can't be registered anywhere except Somalia as somebody said above
     
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  22. mepassione

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    One thing is that car was supplied in Sweden which for a french collector might be less desirable and could easily justify a 10 to 20% discount compared to a french supplied car. In the UK a HK supplied car would sell at a large discount to a UK supplied car. There is one delivery mileage white tdf for sale at £900k which is HK supplied that tells me that a nice delivery mileage UK supplied would be above £1mm
    For comparison in Germany a red tdf with a few thousands km was just advertised at 1.3mm eur, and its red which is less sought after by collectors
    https://m.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=353527947
     

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