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F430 Engine warning light

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  1. Paul Vozbutas

    Paul Vozbutas Rookie

    Sep 1, 2018
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    Hi guys. I have just bought my first Ferrari, a 2007 F430 F1 coupe. I’ve only had it 2 weeks and done 150 Miles or so and the engine warning light has come on. Not sure if this is a coincidence but it came on the first drive after being connected to a trickle charger (CTEK). The car appears to be driving ok although it felt like it maybe missed it was going to cut out (although I could have just been paranoid after seeing the light). Any suggestions??
     
  2. greyboxer

    greyboxer F1 World Champ

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    Whilst it could be a low battery two classics for new owners are not waiting for the pre-start checks 'check ok' before firing up and not securing the fuel cap correctly

    To be absolutely sure you need an OBDII code reader (lots of recommendations in the 360/430 section eg bluetooth reader off Ebay plus EOBD Facile on phone) and check its meaning (or ask the dealer)
     
  3. Paul Vozbutas

    Paul Vozbutas Rookie

    Sep 1, 2018
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    I have been waiting for the checks to run and just had it on the diag machine which read the following:
    P2195 O2 sensor signal biased/stuck lean bank 1 sensor 1
    P2177 System Too Lean Off Idle Bank 1.

    I’m told that this is not enough fuel getting to bank 1. Could this be down to me putting regular fuel rather than the good stuff in?
    The light has been knocked off and the car seems to be running fine.
     
  4. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 Veteran

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    Sensors are notoriously sensitive sometimes. I’d run it for a while, see what happens, the cars brain won’t let you run it with issues that will damage it in my experience. If the light returns, I’d get it to a service centre and let then diagnose any issues properly. Sometimes a low battery can make sensors return funny signals, and those signals stay in the system until you connect the OBD reader again, so it may not have been yours when the battery was low, you are just seeing the result the previous owner had of that.

    Tell you what though, check it out in the threads for your specific model here on fchat, the brains here are worth ten of any I’ve ever come across in a dealers service bay, they’ll know way more than an amateur like me, I just drive em fast, they fix them every day!
     
  5. Tackleberry

    Tackleberry Karting
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    Apr 11, 2014
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    Try the Self Learning Start Up Procedure.............


    Cycle the main power switch, wait 15/20 sec (in other words disconnect then reconnect the battery).

    Switch off A/C, fan, lights, radio etc.

    Cycle the ignition in position II, wait 15/20 sec.

    Start the engine and let it idle for min. 10/15 minutes.
    Don't switch on any electric devices during idling. Best is to wait until you hear the cooling fans start.


    This will delete the "CEL"

    Then just drive as normal.
    If it was just a "brain fart" all will be fine ;)
     
  6. mthompson2376

    mthompson2376 Rookie

    Feb 2, 2017
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    I agree with the all the threads above, sounds like an O2 sensor and probably not a battery problem unless you really did run it down, the F430’s are not as sensitive as the next generation cars to battery charging although best advice is keep it on a conditioner, especially if not using, try the kill switch first, and the reset procedure, that usually fixes most things on an F430 especially if it has not been driven for a while, beyond that, then it probably is a simple sensor, if it is an O2 sensor, and they do go on all cars, and they are the same price as any other car and can be ordered easily through Europarts, you can fit them easily enough yourself, there is access to these parts without too much work (check out the forums)....then a reset....also double check what exhaust manifolds and CATS the car is running, modified 100/200 CEL CATS can throw up warning engine lights very easily on these cars, in fact anything too far out of tolerance can do this which again is related to O2 sensors, I run Fabspeed exhaust headers which does away with the preCat and a Capristo exhaust but with original CATS and have no errors...., I think it is either an inlet manifold or exhaust O2 sensor, but it may simply be your car has been modified with racing CATS...that is almost guaranteed to throw up an error.

    Hope this helps, I think you have a niggle rather than anything super serious from the your OBD checks, let us know how you get on....good luck


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  7. mike32

    mike32 Formula 3

    May 13, 2016
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    Probably the exhaust sensor, its a good idea to start the engine and leave it to warm up without touching the accelerator. It allows the exhaust and sensors time to heat up. Bliping the throttle can send unburnt fuel down the pipe onto a cold sensor and up comes a code. If the pipe is hot then the fuel will not effect the sensor.
    I fitted Capristo manifolds without the pre cats and this is the way i stop it throwing codes.
     
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  8. knocker

    knocker F1 Rookie

    Jul 10, 2017
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