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F430 Position Light Replacement

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  1. Ray Smith

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    I would like to replace the weak front position light H6W incandescent bulbs on my 2007 F430 with LED units. I am aware that just replacing the bulbs will generate a bulb-out warning on the instrument cluster (and set a code) and that a 50W 6-Ohm resister is required to fool the computer into thinking this is a normal H6W. Does anyone have a source for a kit that does NOT require soldering, but is a plug and play solution?

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    Use the search function at the top right of the page. There are inexpensive plug and play LEDs that fit fine. There is no "bulb out" indicator, so don't worry about that. I bought some LEDs on Ebay and swapped out the stock bulbs. Works fine. If you use the search function, you can find the threads with the various options for 430s.
     
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    Performed the recommended search. When I search on "Position lights" my post above shows up. Nothing on whether replacing a bulb with an LED sets a code. I have found kits including a resistor but that requires soldering.

    This post seems promising https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/f430-led-front-parking-lights.473751/ but he had to grind off part of the LED base. No indication in that thread of setting an error code.

    I bought the Launch Tech USA X-431 Torque diagnostic tool. I can reset any code, but that's of little use if a code re-occurs. I ordered LEDs *similar* to the ones referenced in the link (it has been discontinued) supplied and two resister kits. However, all indications are that the 430 requires a higher resistance to fool the ECU into thinking there is a bulb installed and not an LED. My car is still under the 15-year power train warranty Smartand I don't want to do anything to jeopardize that. I installed Stef's Smart F1 ECU module and am hoping that doesn't void the warranty.
     
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    As I stated previously, there is no light control sensors on the 430 series. You will never get a "bulb out" warning, because there is no such system on the 430.
    "position light" is your term, the more commonly used term is "parking lights".
     
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    I looked back at that thread and I posted in it the LEDs I purchased that did not require modification to install. They are very bright and seen even in daylight. Probably not as nice as the LED strips, but the bulbs were super easy to install and inexpensive: From Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1X-White-BAX9S-H6W-5-COB-LED-7-5W-Non-Polar-Light-Bulb-Lamp-AC-DC-12-24V-K201/231213630498?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

    They have been in my car for over two years with no issues...no "bulb out" warning ;)
    Due to the sometimes sketchy reliability with LEDs from China, I bought a spare set, but have not needed them. In fact Ray, you can have my spare set for free, just private message me your address and I can mail them out to you on Saturday. Regards, Dave
     
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    Thanks Dave! I should know better, but how do I DM you?
     
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    I started a "private conversation" i hope that's a DM...
     
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    Well, I attempted to install the LEDs Dave sent me (thanks Dave!) and followed the owner's manual for doing it. Everything was going swimmingly until I attempted to reinsert the bulb holder with the new LED. At some point the new LED slipped out of the bulb holder and disappeared into the bowls of the front end, never to be seen again. I removed the wheel, and the panels with the vents to get better sight-lines to look for the wandering LED. No joy. I needed a camera on a long tether like the archeologists use but unfortunately I don't have one. So I reinserted the old H6W and buttoned everything back up and re-mounted the wheel and tire (which is surprisingly heavier than my Z06 wheels). I guess I will drive the car and listen for a rattle and then re-remove everything and search again.

    One thing I noticed was that the car had that panel removed previously. The telltale was five of the six screws are Phillips head. The sixth is a 4mm metric hex head screw. Mechanics do things like that when they lose a screw. This one put a bunch of Locktite on it because it's probably not the right size. I'm reasonably certain the mechanic at Ferrari of Newport Beach is the culprit, since the car was serviced there exclusively. In addition to their reluctance to provide me with the service history, I'm beginning to wonder what else they have concealed.

    Stay tuned.

    Ray
     
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    Sorry to hear Ray, I would just proceed with buying a couple more from the Ebay link above and move on. I would not worry too much about retrieval, I doubt it will make a noise or hurt anything. I have found stones, washers, a bearing ball, and a lock nut, in various nooks and crannies on my car. Whether they are from manufacturing or service, who knows? ;)

    Only problem is everything from HK and China takes a month or more to get here...used to only take 10 to 14 days.
     
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    Thanks to Amazon Prime I bought two different types of LEDs which should arrive today. At least I broke my cherry with the car. Until you start taking it apart in secret you really are not one with the vehicle. And, being anal, I took the opportunity to clean everything I came into contact with. I may attempt to use the remaining LED as a dome lamp...stay tuned to cable news for breaking news of an Orange County man being electrocuted by his dome light...:)

    If you ever travel down here look me up...we'll socially distance over a snifter of Courvoisier.

    Ray
     
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    Cool Ray, after you install them, if they work out well, please post the link.
    The ones I posted from Ebay have two specific qualities that allow them to work well. One was a pretty high amount of lumens (brightness), the other was they have a lens in the tip, that directs light right into the "tube" that transmits the light through the headlight. Good luck my friend!
     

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