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Fabspeed vs Tubi Header for F355 GTB

Discussion in '348/355' started by V12Lyfe, Jul 13, 2019 at 4:40 AM.

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Which aftermarket header did you buy for your F355 (GTB, GTS, Spider)

  1. Fabspeed

    34.6%
  2. Tubi

    65.4%
  1. V12Lyfe

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    HI community

    What's your opinion on the Fabspeed header vs the Tubi one for your F355. Which one lasts longer, sounds better, more reliable and most importantly the one you actually decided to buy.

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  2. Jackie and bill

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    You do know there are other makes of tubular manifolds that many buy.
    Any reason why you just have tubi v fabspeed?
     
  3. V12Lyfe

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    Hi Jackie
    These two seems to be the most reputable vendor for this car. I just bought my F355 GTB and looking to replacement the OEM header with an aftermarket one. Which one would you recommend? Thanks

    Mike
     
  4. Jackie and bill

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    #4 Jackie and bill, Jul 13, 2019 at 5:38 AM
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    I cant remember which but it may be tubi manifolds, but on some they had to be adjusted to fit. Maybe do a search to find out.
    Yeah the reason why i mentioned other types was because in some countries its some times a tad hard to get systems like fabspeed. Including the UK believe it or not. Thats why here in the UK we have certain craft men hand making tubular manifolds for ferrari specialists.
    Strange how some availability of parts are really, because superformance sell stainless tubulars for ferrari because its hard getting fabspeed. However a lot of americans buy parts from superformance because its hard getting certain parts in the USA.
    I have some on mine. Over 2k miles and they look and preform great.
     

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  5. michaelz

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    Fabspeed here, it was the more reasonably priced option IMO. Yes there's talk the 4-1 collectors are made in Taiwan but I don't really care, they're proven products, I just want the sound (combined with Capristo catback) and to rid myself of the factory headers.

    Heat shielding is provided standard with Tubi but I had the Fabspeed headers ceramic coated for a couple of hundred bucks and no issues with heatsoak.
     
  6. 05011994

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    Tubi, correct configuration and heat shields. Pay now or pay later, I prefer to fix it the best rather than less expensive. The Fabspeed loses some of the F1 sound due to the configuration.
     
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  7. Jackie and bill

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    Just because tubi manifolds cost 5k and fabspeed 3k, does not mean there better. It just means you spent 2k more, and with no guarantee of them fitting with out modifications.
    Besides all of us have already had "tubi" manifolds with heat Shields on our cars from the factory, look how that turned out :D
     
  8. Drock28

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    I bought the Fabspeeds. as the more "economical" option.
    straight bolt on, bare, no coating. with only the heat plates provided. no issues since, installed 4 years ago.

    but I would say the Tubi headers are still the best option.

    and yes.. due to the 4-1 merge on fabspeed, I definitely noticed a lower pitch compared to the stock 4-2-1 merge.

    in either case, as long as you get the stock headers out.. you will be better off. mine were still good.. but replaced them anyways.
     
  9. FourthAlfa

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    The stock manifolds were not Tubi, they were made by ANSA
     
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  10. Jackie and bill

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    Doh of course they are, my bad as you yanks like to say :)
    Now why did i think that, doh.
     
  11. jimmym

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    Andrew is correct. The OEM headers were built by Ansa. The material was not 304 s/s if I remember correctly.
     
  12. Jackie and bill

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    As i have alreafy said, i know they are. Just a brain fart moment. All good now;)
     
  13. FourthAlfa

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    Luckily there are a few options for the manifolds, as the factory Ansa units don't have a very good track record regarding durability. As mentioned above,it is not just Tubi and Fabspeed, there is Superperformance and then custom built options as well. As far as I am aware of, there does not seem to be any durability issues with any of the aftermarket offerings (keeping in mind there is probably not than many accumulated miles on any of them!). So it all boils down to opinion/preference at this point. The Tubis keep the original 4-2-1 design and have a pretty heat shield. The Fabspeed are 4-1 but are much more reasonably priced. The Superpeformance are even better priced, and probably do the job just fine too. For me, the features of the Tubi manifolds were sexy enough to get me to shell out the extra cash, but I wouldn't criticize anyone for choosing Fabspeed or Superperformace, both have compelling arguments. I can confirm that the workmanship of the Tubi manifolds is VERY VERY nice, I would be really surprised if a custom builder could do a better job (weld quality, materials, and especially the heat shield). I can also confirm that it seems like a bit of adjustment will be required to get them on the engine as the hole do not line up to the stud "perfectly". I haven't fully installed them yet (only test fit) so can not give conclusive feedback yet, but did do a quick test fit as I have heard others complain that the fit way "way off". My experience on others cars tells me new manifolds always require a bit a tweaking to fit, but maybe I'm just unlucky ;)
     
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  14. V12Lyfe

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    Thanks guys. Where is the best place to get and install the pair of Tubi header around Orange country CA area? Anyone happen to know?
     
  15. chrisj951

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    Both options are good ones. I bought Tubi headers from eurospares and had them here 3 days later. They have the best price on them. No fitment issues at all. I did go with Tubi test pipes and the fabspeed secondary cat delete and fabspeed muffler. Car sounds great.


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  16. FourthAlfa

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    Got my at eurospares also. Installing myself, but I would suppose FastCars in Redondo beach would be a good choice - If the engine isn’t out already, it is a bit of a chore to wiggle them in. If you are not desperate to get them on, you could just wait till the next engine out service
     
  17. PaulK

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    Tubi all the way. You can get them cheaper by going to eurospares.co.uk and ordering them that way.

    Tubis are very well made and they have the correct heat shield. These cars get really hot and I wouldn't want to have an un-shielded manifold so close to all these wires and fuel lines.
     
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  18. f355spider

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    Factually incorrect. The oem manufacturer was Ansa. They had the wrong material choice and too thin a material.
     
  19. f355spider

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    From my observation, the Fabspeed will induce a slightly lower tone to the exhaust, due to the four into one design. If that matters to you, stick with Tubi. The other option not mentioned, is sticking with oem, simply have them rebuilt by a reputable rebuilder. Quicksilver does them, and has a USA distributor https://quicksilverexhausts.store/collections/ferrari-f355-1/products/f355-manifolds-exchange-1994-99
    If you intend to show your car in a Ferrari concours, this might matter to you, to retain the oem appearance through rebuilding. If not showing, then Tubi all the way. I'd just mate the Tubi manifolds with a Capristo exhaust. ;)
     
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  20. JSBMD

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    Fabspeeds on my car. I put 47k miles on them, then noticed a leak. Inspection revealed both sides cracked.

    Called Fabspeed, given the lifetime warranty-- removed them, sent them in, and had replacements back in a week or so. 11 years and 47k miles isn't bad, in my opinion, as these cars are notorious flamethrowers. And replaced free under warranty, no hassles.

    Pretty solid customer service. Thanks Fabspeed!
     
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  21. Jackie and bill

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    Did you acualy bother to read the thread were i said i made a mistake :rolleyes:
     
  22. f355spider

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    Obviously not...but saw it now that you pointed it out. :)
     
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  24. V12Lyfe

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    Does eurospear ship to US? If not any good US vender for the Tubi header? Thanks guys
     
  25. audi_328

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    They do ship to the US, you'll have them likely within a few days. Any US vendor (that I found) had them priced high enough to make eurospares the best option by far.
     
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