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  1. s2kev888

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    #1 s2kev888, Jul 29, 2017
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    Greetings all!

    First off I wanted to thank everyone here for the wealth of knowledge available to new, future, and current Ferrari owners. This forum played an integral role during my search for my first Ferrari.

    I recently picked up a 2006 F430 F1 Spider (from an out of state Ferrari dealer) and went through the motions of registering an out of state car in California (smog check and vin verification). My car ended up failing the smog check today due to the 'Catalyst Monitor' not being 'ready'. All else seemed to pass with no issues. The smog check shop advised me to drive around in normal driving conditions for 70-80 miles or so and come back for a retest. He mentioned that this is common on cars that have recently had a battery replacement or jump start. The thing is I'm not aware of any recent battery replacement / jump starts prior to my ownership and I've personally already driven the car just over 200 miles already without having replaced the battery or jump starting the car.

    I've tried searching but haven't been able to find any info if this is some sort of known / common issue on the F430 or if there are any fixes. Should I just continue to drive as normal for a few more miles (80 or so) as instructed by the smog check shop and keeping coming back for retests until it passes? Or would anyone happen to know of any better and more effective ways to solve the issue? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advanced!

    Best,

    Kevin
     
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  3. aleary360

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    I'm also due for a SMOG check (CA) and just replaced my battery. I'll be curious what advice we get from this.
     
  4. Need4Spd

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    Try this

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  5. Manda racing

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    The shop is just using their handheld monitors and NOT putting car on machine I hope.
     
  6. ferralc

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    This, if they indeed connected the state machine the fail is already recorded, DO NOT take it to the test again until you are sure all monitors are ready or you will be flagged as a gross polluter.
    It is pretty easy to check the monitors with a $20 obd2 reader from auto zone



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  8. s2kev888

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    #6 s2kev888, Jul 29, 2017
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    Thank you. I did see this but saw it was for 360/ 575M. I'm assuming it'll also work for F430? I just wanted to reconfirm before I disconnected my battery. Never done this before but I'm sure I can figure it out. Anyone happen to know if I need to leave the battery disconnected for any certain period of time or just a quick disconnect/reconnect will do?

    They plugged it into the actual smog check computer/machine for the first try when it failed. But they did tell me that moving forward they can test it on the handheld monitor to see if it passes before retesting it on the actual computer again.

    Got it. I will be sure to make sure that it passes on the handheld before retesting on the computer. Thanks for the tip!
     
  9. Manda racing

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    On other vehicles that are older like my wife's Prowler and a couple vans, I've driven around and then drop in and say, "Now?"
     
  10. AD170

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    In California all monitors must say complete, ready, pass or something like that. The only monitor that doesn't have to run to completion is the EVAP monitor. If you disconnect the battery or clear DTC's, that resets the monitors and everything has to run again. The monitors are two types: continuous or non-continuous. Continuous monitors run constantly to protect the cat. They are misfire, fuel system monitor and comprehensive component. Non-continuous monitors only run when enabling criteria are met and they are generally emission type components such as EVAP, Cat, and O2 sensor monitors.
    The monitors are what set DTC's and turn on the check engine light. For example the misfire monitor will run and if a misfire is detected will set a P0300 code and turn on the CEL. The EVAP monitor will run to completion and if a problem is detected will set a EVAP DTC and turn on the CEL. The smog check is looking to see if your monitors have run to completion and set any DTC's. If your monitors have run to completion and no DTC's are set you pass.
    I suggest you buy a scan tool that reads readiness monitors, so before you go for a smog check for any vehicle you can make sure all monitors have run to completion.
    One last thing, the Cat monitor is looking at the rear O2 sensor to determine if your Cat is bad. The rear O2 is a narrow band sensor and should (once warmed up) read .5 to .6V basically flatlined. If it is cycling up and down your Cat is bad and needs to be replaced. This data info is required for all vehicles in the US to be available in Generic Data and can be read by any scantool with mode 1(Live Data) capability.
    Oh, and just one more thing, your Cat monitor looks at the O2 sensor for the test. Therefore the O2 sensor must run and pass with no DTC's before the Cat monitor can run.
     
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  11. s2kev888

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    Thank you all for the insight thus far. I attempted the drive cycle instructions this morning (to the best of the ability). At step 3 during the idle I did hear a long beep -- I'm wondering if that indicated it was successfully completed. I'll be bringing it back to the Smog Center Monday morning to be retested with their handheld. I'm crossing my fingers that it did the trick!
     
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  13. 360+Volt=Prius

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    Hey any moderators lurking?? Perhaps this service bulletin (not whole thread) should be listed in the sticky section.

    Title 360 Drive cycle procedure.


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  15. otokoto

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    Hi Kevin, just wanted to ask you on what happened to your Drive Cycle in order to be smog ready.
    Did you turn off the battery? by the switch? how long?
    thanks
     
  16. Sj_engr

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    #13 Sj_engr, Jun 17, 2021
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    Any el chepo OBD2 handheld tool will tell you the readiness. For my 911 it said to drive around below 3k RPM 40-50mph. Any rapid throttle angles or above 3k RPM is said to stop the process.

    Cutting the battery sets you back to the start. The 911 was out of state purchase for me and apparently all shippers disconnect for safety.
     
  17. otokoto

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    so for updates, I just drove it on the freeway for more than 50 miles and came back with ready CAT, all went smooth on CA smog.
     
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  19. otokoto

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    Hello there, i had same scenario few weeks ago, I tried to lift the car and follow the Ferrari tech bulletin to save time but didnt work because of the traction control etc., as you know the technical bulletin from Ferrari is quite impossible for us to drive if we live in the city that has so many traffic lights, so what I did, I drove the car around 60 miles with moderate speed of 65-75 mph on the FREEWAY, halfway of that I left to idle for 5 mins, shut off and start driving back again normally, I got home and checked the OBD and all is OK.
    hope this help
     
  20. BrettC

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    Easiest way to do this is get a bluetooth OBD monitor that links to your phone. I use Torque Lite free app. You can drive and monitor the reset and as soon as all are set, except the EVAP, drive it in and smog it. My roll over valve somewhere has a crack and throws the engine light, but I can reset and get to pass with just the EVAP not ready. I also had to recently replace both o2 sensores in front in order to pass smog. Heater not working on one side. Found the exact Bosch 17001 parts from Autozone for $109.99 each....pretty good pricing and they fit perfect. 15 minute job both sides. HTH
     
  21. Sj_engr

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    You can find the bluetooth ones cheaper on ebay. Cool thing with those is that you can get a free program (+ use a laptop) to create keys for most Ford trucks/suv.

    I have a ~$20 handheld for most code reset or emissions. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YHDFSP3
     

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