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Discussion in 'Vintage Ferrari Market' started by Tony Fuisz, Nov 28, 2003.

  1. Tony Fuisz

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  2. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Ok, why do i think some or all of this, is bullsh!t...?

    The engine is in perfect condition. Has been always kept running, ocassionally, with very ligh use.
    So what is it...? Always running...? Occasionally...?
    & Just very light use...? No firm revving once in a while to clean out the pipes...?

    Classic Ferraris are a high performance sports car, meant for high speed racing( as well as a street sport car*), engines run at high RPM, with high compression ratios. The engine block uses no gasket( it is precisely engineered for adequate thermal expansion), so you can expect an ocassional drop of oil on the floor, or some smoke coming out of the exhaust( the extra lubrication of valves and pistons will make this, until the engine is at the appropriate running temperature).
    Yeah, so how come they've only been using it "lightly"...?

    The photographs show the car with no bumpers( which is OK for racing). To be used on the street you would have to fit it with the bumpers ( we have the bumpers and will provide them with the car).
    Hmmm...

    SINCE RESTORATION, THE VEHICLE HAS RUN APROXIMATELY 1000 MILES.
    Oh...? And where exactly did they drive it since it didn't have bumpers...? Surely not on the street... & we know they didn't race it since it was only used "lightly"...

    & how come the bumpers were never affixed during the restoration, to begin with...?

    This whole thing makes me wonder...

    DISCLOSURE: THE VEHICLE SHOWS A BUMP( 1.5 CM X 0.04 CM) ON THE UPPER SIDE OF THE FRONT RIGHT FENDER.

    Wait, i thought it was restored...? What, did they forget about the bump...? What's going on here...?

    i would be very leary of this...
     
  3. jsa330

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    Looks great but sounds real cheesy.
     
  4. Bryan

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    More info at http://ferrari225s.8k.com/
    Site indicates that the original car was by Vignale.

    May be original body, but engine 0136 is long gone. Replaced with 250 GTE from a trashed GTE.

    Note that according to Eaton, 0136E is a 212 Export by Touring.

    Massini's book on Vignale does not list 0136E.
     
  5. andrewg

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    Im sure the Description should read


    1963 250 GTE re-bodied in style of 1951 225 Barchetta, good overall condition, may need valve guides replacing in next couple of years, one small dent on wing, once sat in by Frolian Gonzales
     
  6. El Wayne

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    BS. Body is not that of 0136E and is obviously Vignale-influenced. Seller's reputation is well known by some members of the Ferrari community. Need I say more?
     
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    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ

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    Wayne...! Are you back...? How've you been...? i hope all is well and hope to see you around here more often, now...
     
  8. Bryanp

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    Wayne's back . . . and with authority!

    hope everything is ok in the non-ferrari part of your life ("'non-ferrari part of your life?' what the hell is that?")
     
  9. El Wayne

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    DES, Bryan, thanks. I still check this section every now and then.
     
  10. don

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    I just saw the correspondence re the fake 225 for sale.
    In no way has this car ever been connected with #0136.
    I owned 212 Barchetta 0136 from 1972 through 1999, having restored it from a poor condition, as found in South America by a friend of mine.
    The original body was restored, and a 250GTE motor/gearbox was fitted, as all that was left of the original motor was one very badly damaged cylinder head.
     
  11. El Wayne

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    Don, welcome to F-chat!
     

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