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Ferrari 250 GT Nembo...?

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  1. 134282

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    Anyone have any information on this car...? Is it a one-off...? If not, how many were made...? If it IS a one-off, is it still around...? Who owns it...? If there was more than one made, how many are left and where are they now...?
     
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  3. El Wayne

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    The 250 GT Nembos:

    1623 GT: Coupe rebodied in 1964 and based on a 250 PF Coupe.

    1777 GT: Spyder rebodied in 1965 based on a Series II 250 PF Cab.

    3771 GT: Spyder rebodied in 1966 and based on a 250 SWB.

    Also:

    5805 GT: Spyder based on a 330 GT 2+2. (Long story. More info here.)

    4773 GT: RHD Spyder rebodied in the UK (NOT BY NERI & BONACINI) and based on a 250 GTE.
     
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    #3 134282, Mar 18, 2004
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    Wayne, pretty cool, thanks for the information and the link; what was the point of taking a 250 PF or SWB and rebodying it...? Who's Neri that the name "Nembo" was born from his work...?
     
  5. Bryan

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    Neri & Bonacini was another of the carrozzeria (coach builders) who designed and built bodies for Ferrari in the first couple decades. They were very low production shop and I don't know if they did ANY other Ferraris.

    A non-complete list includes:

    Vignale
    Scaglietti
    Touring
    Pinin Farina
     
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    Does anybody have pictures of these cars?

    Joop Joldersma
     
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    Log onto Symbolic Motorcars in La Jolla. click on restoration dept. Pix of Nembo Spyder sn 3771 GT that they restored.

    I also believe 3771 was shown at the Cavallino Concours in 2002 or 2003.
     
  9. El Wayne

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    Coutesy of some of our fellow F-chatters from previous threads (in order: 1777GT, 1623GT, 4773GT, 5805GT, 3771GT)...
     
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    Very 275GTB looking. Were these designs created before the 275GTB?

    Note: Look at that beautiful Alfa Romeo 8c2900 in the back ground ... ooooooh just stunning.

    Pete
     
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    1623 GT was rebodied sometime in 1964. Around the same time, the 275 GTB was being developed and was introduced at the Paris Salon in October of that same year.

    I think it's safe to assume that the 1964 GTO had some influence on both designs.
     
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    Yes, absolutely ... gee I just saw a replica of a '64 GTO and missed that connection (shaking head :( ...).

    Pete
     
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    Wow, that Nembo spyder is beautiful!

    I remember reading an article in Forza a while back about Ed Niles, and he was talking about owning one of those, and how difficult it was to sell. He said that when driving it, the windshield post was about two inches from your left eye.

    He said that to sell it, he finally had to find someone who didn't care about what might happen to their left eye in an accident.
     
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    "...and the car suffered from some of those niggling little problems that one-offs frequently fall victim to. Such things as a top that was ill fitting and hard to work, seats that weren't too comfortable, etc.

    But the real killer (if I may be allowed to put it that way) was that the corner of the left side wind-wing frame was only 2 inches from the driver's left eyeball. It was almost impossible to drive the car without thinking of hitting a small bump and (as mother used to put it) putting out my eye. (I always used to wonder where it was that I was putting the eye.)

    In fact, I'd had quite a bit of difficulty selling the car for that very reason. Any number of prospective purchasers responded to my ads, and upon seeing the car, said 'I'll take it, how much?' Then they would sit in the car and this look would come across their face. I could tell, after the first two or three lost sales, what was going through their minds.

    Eventually, I found a buyer who didn't care about his left eye, and the bank, the buyer and I were all happy campers." --Ed Niles
     
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    Thanks Wayno for the pictures and info. Great.

    Joop
     
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    Here's one for sale in Fermany awhile back. Don't know serial number- Wayne probably knows.
     
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    This was 1623GT at Auto Salon Singen

    Ciao
     
  19. Miltonian

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    Up here in post #3, our friend NNO asks "Who's Neri that the name Nembo was born from his work?" To answer this question, the partners were Giorgio Neri and Luciano Bonacini.

    To quote from R&T 11/66: "Nembo, a natural contraction of the two names, was chosen because it also called to mind (for Italians at least) Nembo Kid, Italy's comic strip counterpart of Superman. A combination of pop art and power image."

    It is also mentioned that Neri and Bonacini build the chassis frames for production Lamborghinis bodied at Carrozzeria Touring (this would be the 350GT and 400GT, presumably).
     
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    The pics are no longer up. Can anyone else post them?

    These cars are gorgeous!
     
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    1777 sold recently for somewhere in the neighborhood of 800k US dollars. It is one of the most visually spectacular Ferraris. There is a Nembo Lambo coming up at auction which was also a one-off, based on a 400GT chassis, if memory serves, being offered in original condition- i think it was essentially a one owner car from Spain and probably needs to be fully restored.
     
  22. Rifledriver

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    3771 was or is a local car. I have spent a good deal of time driving it and working on it. The corner of the windshield frame is very close to you and you never forget it while driving.

    While I did not take measurements I was told the windshield is from a 250 LM and on casual observation it looks to be one of those. That explains it's position relative to the driver. It starts quite forward on the cowl and wraps around and leans back WWWAAAAYYYY back towards the driver.

    As far as the donor car is concerned I was also told the SWB had been in an accident and as they had not yet achieved the stature or importance they have now it seemed to be the thing to do.

    At my last encounter with the car the motor was, as far as camshafts and compression ratio, in a very mild state of tune but at some point in its history had been converted to 6 carbs with rather poor, replica GTO manifolds, and the improper carbs. A carb set up that the poor motor was in no position to support.
     
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    Great info Brian!
     
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    Thanks.

    The designer called me out of the blue a couple of months ago and so I was able to ask him directly about the windshield and the donor car.
     
  25. Ed Niles

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    3771 was built for Bill Dixon, then of Seattle, general contractor Tom Meade. Tom also designed 1777 for a client who wanted a "convertible GTO".
     
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    That's him. Still in So Cal somewhere.
     
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    West LA area. See him occasionally, talk to him often.
     
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