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Ferrari 365 GTC\4

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Bowzer, Jan 24, 2022.

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  1. Bowzer

    Bowzer Formula Junior

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    Good morning all,
    I am in the process of restoring the suspension of my 365 GTC\4
    I have seen some parts in gold colour and others in Silver colour. On other cars.
    I believe that the original was all in silver colour. Can anyone confirm this please?
    Thank you
     
  2. daytonaman

    daytonaman Formula Junior

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    What year.
    Original ?
    are they presently cad or nickel
    I am going through all this with a 69 Daytona
     
  3. Bowzer

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    1972 Original always refreshed silver coloured and some parts with very feint gold colour.
     
  4. gcalex

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    I'm not sure what you mean by "original always refreshed".

    If it really is original, and by "refreshed" you mean cleaned and maintained, then I would think you should just copy what you have.

    If you are wondering what exactly the finish might be, the "faint gold" tends to be something one associates with nickel (though most call it a "yellow tint"). Until the recent discussions about the nickel arms on Daytonas, I was unaware that this finish was used, but evidence seems pretty clear that Ferrari did employ that finish.

    If parts are silver-cad it is likely that you will find some white-ish corrosion someplace on the part (with some plain-old brown/red rust as well).

    On my 72 Daytona, the (seemingly original) yellow-cad parts could not be mistaken for anything else, so it does not sound like you have any of that sort of finish currently on your car.
     
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  5. Bowzer

    Bowzer Formula Junior

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    Yes, it is original and cleaned and maintained. This is what I mean Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
  6. TTR

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    Looks similar to any same era (+/-1972) Daytona I’ve worked on.
    Some parts are silver/white, some gold/yellow, some black, some unfinished.
     
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  7. retired

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    The following photo of unrestored suspension on my car. 13,000 original miles. I bought it new

    Lets see if the photo uploads
     

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  8. TTR

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    Interesting (small) detail variations in plating colors compared to Daytonas I was referring to.
    Some colors seem little difficult to ascertain, possibly due to flash effect, but interesting regardless.
    Never seen a "gold" anti-sway bar link before (on Daytonas), usually either silver or black and hex bars between arm castings usually just silver, etc...
    May I ask, what month/year was your car completed in ?
     
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  9. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I like GTC/4s in Marrone Colorado.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  10. Bowzer

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  11. GIOTTO

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    Photos ?
     
  12. 300GW/RO

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    The rear 3/4 view of a C/4 just Gorgeous imo....as is your cars livery. Bravo !
     
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  13. Bowzer

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    Thank you Jack :)
     
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  15. -CD-

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    Hi Marcus,
    done it last year on an very original base with a mechanic who knows
    the GTC/4 very well.

    https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/148218141/
     
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  17. Bowzer

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  18. Zanny1

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    Purchased 14633 last week. Not a big fan of red, however the color is growing on me. Car was originally Marrone Colorado. Interesting history with a 4" thick binder including all owner history, service records etc. I will post a summary under a separate title when I get through all the docs.
    Car runs well, needs some attention to the carbs, has 34K original miles. I would prefer to remove the shields, but they were applied when the car was repainted in 1976 so that option is OUT.
    More to follow.
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  19. Bowzer

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    Congratulations Mike , red is nice especially, it goes well with my blue ;-)
    Looks like a good clean example.
     
  20. turbo-joe

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    this red looks darker than the ferrari red. looks good in my eyes
     
  21. TTR

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    Ooh come on now, be brave and do it.
    Just like quickly pulling/yanking off a band-aid, it only hurts briefly. :p

    On more serious note: Congratulations.
     
  22. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    It is yellow zinc. It is a 2 stage process and whoever does it for Ferrari is very inconsistent. If the second stage is rushed it can come out looking more silver than yellow. The exception is I believe the sway bar links which are clear zinc which looks silver.

    If you want it to look correct give the pieces to 3 different shops and have them make it a project for their apprentices. That way it will be very inconsistent and amateurish just like original. But seriously if it is done with every piece the same shade it looks fake a mile away.
    The exception is the brake calipers. ATE did those and they are quite consistent.
     
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  23. TTR

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    Kind of like welding repairs or replacements of the body supporting "space frame" structures on Daytonas/Dinos. :rolleyes:
    If one wishes it all to appear authentic, no beautiful/professional Heli-Arc/TIG welds, but instead with Wire-Feed/MIG and preferably by someone inexperienced or capable of using their non-primary hand and keep their eyes closed during it. :D
     
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  24. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    In the words of Paul Russell "Pininfarina got the door gaps right sometimes".

    If you buy linoleum that looks like tile it is intentionally made to look inconsistent like real hand made tile. There is a lesson there.

    In production items that were built buy hand like a car there were still production needs to make a buck. That did not equate to "time is no object, make it perfect". Thats a fantasy unless it was destined to be a Paris show car or a car for royalty etc. They were built by hand because they could not afford big expensive machines and labor was cheap. Not because humans working under pressure make things perfectly. They were not hiring people away from Faberge after all.
     
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  25. Rifledriver

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    Neither. By then cad was mostly used in marine and aerospace and nickel was too expensive. Zinc. Clear (silver) or yellow.
     
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