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Ferrari 550 Maranello suspension questions

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  1. pmi84

    pmi84 Rookie

    May 29, 2015
    15
    Canada
    Hello,

    I am considering the purchase of a ‘97 Ferrari 550 Maranello with about 25K miles. I am unable to inspect in person at the moment so I asked for pictures. Do the shocks and linkages look worn to you all? Will these be challenging to replace?


    Regards,
    Nick.
     
  2. Timmo

    Timmo Formula Junior

    Aug 26, 2017
    394
    Continental Europe
    Either this car was clocked and has at least twice or three times the advertised mileage and/or it has not been garaged correctly throughout its life, and/or was left outside for long periods, IMO. At least there is far more corrosion, even if apparently superficial, than what I would expect from a car with such a low mileage. My 0.02€ worth anyway, and perhaps it's just the flash that makes things look worse than they actually are, as is often the case.
    I do no think it is possible to tell any play or looseness in suspension components only by looking at photos.

    Is the service history coherent with the mileage?
     
  3. Graz

    Graz Formula 3

    Oct 15, 2012
    2,296
    New Jersey and Florida
    Full Name:
    Graziano
    Nick, they might not be challenging to replace if that's required, but I can tell you they will be expensive. Shock absorbers with actuators on top and labor about 4K per corner. It's pretty amazing how a car with only "25K miles" might need this type of service. Agree with the above poster, it's tough to tell by looking at the photos. Probably need a qualified mechanic to inspect the car prior to entertaining a purchase so you don't get burned.
     
  4. pmi84

    pmi84 Rookie

    May 29, 2015
    15
    Canada
    Thank you for your comments! I hadn’t considered odometer rollback. The odometer was changed to miles, but the original odometer comes with the car and there is documentation of the change performed by a Ferrari dealer. There’s a big gap in the service history, but all servicing was done by either Ferrari dealers or specialists. The car spent much of it’s time in the UK and probably not garaged. The attractive price got my interest as it’s priced the same as cars with double the mileage.
    Here’s the service history:

    13.05.98 1647 mileage

    25.03.99 2424 mileage

    25.05.01 7370 mileage

    11.06.02 13772 mileage

    09.09.04 19612 mileage

    11.12.13 21511 mileage (incl. Cambelt)

    11.06.18 22026 mileage (incl. Cambelt)
     
  5. Il Tifoso

    Il Tifoso Formula 3
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Oct 22, 2013
    1,551
    SF Bay Area, CA
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    Ruben
    Another possibility is road salt… looks a bit rough under there. I bet you’d be able to find better out ther with a bit more searching. Good luck - these are wonderful cars!

    Ruben
     
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  6. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jul 19, 2008
    38,087
    Clarksville, Tennessee
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    Terry H Phillips
    She lived in the UK in a really humid environment compared to most of the US. Looks normal to me. The shocks can be rebuilt if necessary. If she does not have any suspension warning lamps, she should be ok. She is 24 years old and looks like she was not a garage queen, which is good.
     
  7. pmi84

    pmi84 Rookie

    May 29, 2015
    15
    Canada
    I know it was driven in the winter when it was new. So it’s probably road salt. I’ve asked for a video and teleconference to see if any codes light up. The price is attractive enough to keep me interested. I want to avoid shady things like odometer rollbacks. But a specialist will be able to find that out no?
     
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  8. belfry

    belfry Formula Junior

    May 14, 2015
    401
    UK
    Full Name:
    Robert Batt
    I'm in the UK. We have an annual inspection (MOT) which will show the mileage at each annual inspection date, together with any items that would make the car unsafe to drive.
    If you can find the UK numberplate I can let you have the MOT history for the car.
     
  9. pmi84

    pmi84 Rookie

    May 29, 2015
    15
    Canada
    Thank you @belfry for that information! I was able to go to the MOT gov.uk website and found the below. Mileage looks consistent but is it bad to have such large gaps in the MOT history? The car was exported out of the UK IN 2018.

    Date tested
    12 July 2018
    PASS
    Mileage
    22,077 miles
    Expiry date
    11 July 2019

    Date tested
    6 July 2017
    PASS
    Mileage
    22,001 miles
    Expiry date
    5 July 2018

    Date tested
    5 July 2013
    PASS
    Mileage
    20,532 miles
    Expiry date
    4 July 2014

    Date tested
    28 April 2011
    PASS
    Mileage
    20,159 miles
    Expiry date
    27 April 2012

    Date tested
    5 October 2009
    PASS
    Mileage
    19,965 miles
    Expiry date
    4 October 2010
    Advisory notice item(s)
    • Nearside Inner Rear brake disc slightly pitted (3.5.1h)
    • Offside Inner Rear brake disc slightly pitted (3.5.1h)
     
  10. white out

    white out Formula 3

    Mar 3, 2010
    1,229
    Looks like a 20+ year old suspension that's been driven, 25k doesn't seem odd (or bad) to me for the way they look. Especially if it has been subjected to snow, there will be miscellaneous corrosion on components.

    As far as suspension, you can either rebuild, or upgrade to adjustable coilovers with either Moton or MSC for significantly less than stock.
     
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  11. Themaven

    Themaven F1 Rookie

    Nov 2, 2014
    4,254
    Eastdown
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    Darius
    It could have been declared off road (what's called a Statutory Off Road Notice, or SORN) in the UK during those gap periods. During those times it might have been stored somewhere damp, or not. If you have any details on the service records of past owners, you could contact them to find out.

    The problem with road salt is that it gets everywhere, suspension, exhaust, mountings, although I guess the 550 is relatively protected compared to previous 12 cyl models. I would also do a HPI check on its UK reg to see if it has any history of being written off. This is much less thorough than a US Carfax.

    I hope it's a bargain, but I always agree with whoever it was who said there's no such thing as a cheap Ferrari.
     
  12. pmi84

    pmi84 Rookie

    May 29, 2015
    15
    Canada
    Thanks for the info @Themaven! I’ll do the HPI check. The paint meter readings are consistent with normal 550 readings for the year. I’m trying to reach the past owners… hopefully I’ll get a couple phone numbers soon.
     
  13. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Aug 10, 2002
    26,436
    socal
    I'm with Taz! That does not look bad at all. It's all just parts. If bones are good that's what you want. You are going to find stuff in any used car. 25 years old just sitting in a museum the bushings will go bad, you need belts changed every 5 years, interior will go sticky. Ferraris are not good cars. They are rolling passion and emotion. I never liked the 550 suspension and I track my car about once a year for some exercise. I'm one of those who went moton double adjustable coilover and custom spring rates. It's about $5k to do that total. I still have all the OEM stuff but have no idea what it would cost to rebuild those oe shocks or get new oe bushings. I cut my own bushings out or delrin. We do delrin and bearings on racecars all the time. Delrin was an easy way to get functional bushings cheap and increase performance. Some could not drive my car too much NHV but I don't even notice it.
     
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