Ferrari: All Models To Get Ceramic Brakes As Standard From 2008

I think the customer should have a choice....

 

Are the pads and rotors still ridiculously expensive?

They are not parts you would be able to find at the local parts store, thats for sure.

I had heard costs in the range of thousands of $$ for a complete 4-axle pad/rotor change. Anyone have the actual numbers?

 

You might not be aware, but this has been under discussion already:

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=177255

 

I hear that carbon is the fastest stopping, but dirty, and ceramic is cleanest, but not as effective. Does this new type combine both?

 

Do you also believe that the customer should also have a choice to specify drum brakes and a carb? C'mon, technology moves on...

 

The local parts store is irrelevant to an electronic car. The pads and rotors will last a very long time and the total cost of ownership simply has a more expensive item amortised over a long time

 

How in the world can you comepare drums to CCB's? C'mon, common sense here....the average person has no need, and doesn't want to spend thousands on pads.

 

If you don't take the car to the track.... seems like you don't get to the temps that those brakes work best?

Ferrari drops the timing belt, loses the 15,000 mile $8,000 service
Ferrari adds the new brakes, that require $8,000 service.... LOL Ferrrari

 

You miss my point

 

Have you owned a Ferrari or a Porsche with CCB brakes? If not, best to not repeat second hand info. CCB's work perfectly stone cold as they will be when you are blasting along on the highway for perhaps 100kms without having the need to touch the brakes and then needing to hammer them to face an unexpected obstacle. Do you think Ferrari might have thought of that?

 

I don't see or hear any complaints from new Ferrari buyers.
When you are in a position of being able to purchase one of the most desired,arguably best sports/GT car in the World,are you concerned about spending roughly 6% more to get the best,state of the art brakes?
Especially in light of the fact that average Ferrari buyer already spends twice as much on silly ,cosmetic options like CF trims,shields,custom leathers and stereos?

 

Nope, normal brakes have worked fine for me since I've lived on the beach for the last 15 years (wish I lived on the German Autobahns)

Until now, CCB brakes were never on my list, just something you heard during F1 races, or saw guys with an extra $27,000 add as an option to their 360's. Now it looks like future F-car owners won't have a choice, and need to know....so that's why I asked the question?

 

The average person has no need for a sub-4 seconds 0-60 sports car with no boot and no ground clearance. Let's not start mixing 'Ferrari' and 'common sense'...

I'd say the new Ferrari buyer has signed on to a money- is-no-object, race car-for-the-road fantasy.

 

Yup, Ferrari (and Lambo) buyers spend money on a lot of questionable stuff (I'd add painted calipers to the list). If CCB brakes are the best, then bring 'em on.

For those who are more price sensitive, there are thousands of used 360s floating around.

 

CCB brakes were never an option on a 360. They were standard on the CS and that was really big news at the time. Your credibility is escalating...

 

Precisely

 

Ferrari has always tried to be at the cutting edge of auto technology. Carbon brakes fit that to a tee. I believe any 250k performance car should come standard with said brakes. As for the longevity, from what I've read, they are holding up very well.


Darrell.

 

Exactly.

 

And with any new technology the price comes down as the number manufactured increases. CCB brakes definitely will fall in manufacturing cost further

CCB is the ONLY answer for cars like the 599 which have massive performance capability. I first experienced CCB in my CGT and could not believe the brakes. Speechless. Since then I have viewed CCB as a mandatory option and am happy they are now standard

 

The benefit of CCB's is much greater than the braking prowess. In fact, I think the realy draw is in significant reduction of unsprung weight. The car handles better in all situations then, not just at the track under heavy use.

And Ferrari doesn't give a hoot about any client that balks at an expensive service. They are about state of the art, not financial prudence. You gotta pay to play, and at this level, the paying is exponential.

 

Trouble is Ferrari is also requiring $25K in options on 430s.

 

This statement is false. Enzo was notoriously slow to adopt new technologies........things like disc brakes, mid engines, 4 valve heads, engine management and on and on. On the other hand, Montezomolo very much wants the cars to be cutting edge and they have been.

Dave

 

I think that like the F1 style transmissions which are now found on many performance cars, ceramic brakes will begin to gain more mainstream acceptance by other brands. I think once that happens, and the aftermarket responds, we will see replacement prices start to be more reasonable.

 

What I think doesn't matter but I think they should be an option. I have them on my 599 and besides stopping fast they are clean.