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  1. Challenge

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    Unsympathetic. What a strange word to use. He wanted THAT Enzo, as new, and he got it. Perhaps the windshield had slight pitting, etc.

    I met the owner once (before I was an owner) and he was one of the nicest guys you've ever met. And listening to Tony D talk about this project is Ferrari gold.

    As unique and impressive as a project like this is, it amazes me that anyone could turn it into criticisms.
     
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    As I said, Kudos to them for restoring all the items which they refurbished, that's what a restoration means in the true sense of the word, so my thoughts are balanced.

    No doubt he got the Enzo he wanted, my commentary has nothing to do with that ownership quest which he succeeded at, and of course I know the owner can do with their car as they wish.

    My comments have to do with the current tendency to over-restore cars with a process that involves not only a refinish of surfaces and coatings in a stronger, brighter and morse shiny finish than was originally manufactured, but perhaps more importantly, they resort to using lots of replacement parts rather than restoring original components. This is an issue when it comes to valuing Supercars as we often have to do in the market. There are some restorations that are fastidiously authentic where almost all components besides paint, leather & perishables are preserved and restored rather than using replacement parts, and the educated school of thought is that these are more authentic or sympathetic restorations, resulting in a more valuable car which still possesses most of its original components.

    Surely when any multimillion dollar piece of automotive art is restored and held up to be one of the best examples in the public domain, we are allowed a balanced subjective review of the pros & cons of the result.
     
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    I understand your perspective. But it seems hung up on valuation. Here you have an owner who threw tons of money into a project because of a burning desire...not because of potential value. I suspect when you get to that level, you've transcended the point at which your decisions need to come from an "educated" school of thought.
     
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    I see what you are saying, fair points, the owner's quest and his money and that's both understood & respected.

    My perspective is not solely valuation-driven, it mainly has to do with preserving these iconic Supercars in an authentic way for posterity, and that fact that many restorations fail to do this authentically. Higher valuation comes as a bonus with authenticity.

    Ferrari SpA themselves state - The objective of any restoration is to retain as much as possible of the original car and its components.

    The stated definition of restoration is the act of returning something to its former condition, this involves, repairing, fixing, refurbishment, reconditioning, rehabilitation, rebuilding, revamping, renovation etc. Replacement? Only when absolutely essential with perishable wear-and-tear items.

    This standard should definitely apply to cars from the 80s onwards most of which survive fairly well without corrosion, the exception to this would obviously be if the car has been seriously damaged or been in an accident.

    In the USA, there are restorers who focus on authentic restorations using the car's original components such as Paul Russell, Bob Smith et al, the same school of thought should be applied to contemporary Ferrari Supercars which are just as valuable or even more valuable than some vintage Ferraris.

    This thinking is a legitimate perspective of many thoughtful specialists, enthusiasts and collectors, an important one, which is why Pebble Beach introduced Preservation Classes.

    That said, the good news is, whilst a car can only be original once, once it's been restored, if it's deemed by a subsequent owner to be restored less than authentically, it can be redone again, which is why we are seeing many restorations corrected to meet a more authentic standard.
     
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    The windshield was cracked in transport to the auction venue. Mecum announced with the sale that they would have a Ferrari dealer replace the windshield at no cost to the buyer. No idea if this affected bidding but just mentioning. I posted a few weeks back about this example - the seats might not be original to the car as Gooding says the factory seats were tan. Maybe the car was supplied new with 2 sets due to its unique owner desires? Those notes aside, the car looked lovely in person, in not a common color for the Enzo.
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    Does anyone have photos of the interior of Jean Todt's red Enzo? I've heard it has a special order Hermes interior with crocodile inserts but can't find any photo evidence to support it.
     
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    This looks like the Miami Concours. How was it this year? I attended the last two years.
     
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    It turned out great. It wasn't raining thankfully. A lot of Huayras (wish they were Zondas), Lamborghinis including the new Countach, Ford RS200, new and old Bugattis, Gunther, 918 and Carrera GT and some other cool cars.
     
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    Personally love the spec. Nice and understated.

    Is "last known in-the-wrapper Enzo" correct? Surely there are other time-capsule cars that were hardly driven and have factory protection still applied?
     
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    Yes, there are.
     
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    and yet I recall an Argento Nurburgring F50 for sale in Germany years ago that languished for ages unsold. Rare specification in silver to but it seemed that a red convertible was much more desired back then.
    Personally I think silver over tan here is the absolutely perfect foil to a sea of red.
     
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