Yes Julio, but the guy who wrote that post about the GTE is not really a sincere poster. Those types of statements are just there to get a response. Notice that there is no mention of his name and realize that he calls himself a name that represents how he wants to be thought of. There are a lot of places where people live where there isn't a lot to do and perhaps people to talk to so they do it on the net. Of course it's usually more funny when he is buzzing around that 0846 P3/P4/P0 discussion. At any rate, it could be worse, he could be a crypto fascist or a missionairy member of a political party you abhor. Best, Yale
Yale, You are probably right, and I take your point. Thank you for instructing me. Cheers, Julio P.S. Does your name have anything to do with attendance at a certain school?
I am not a moderator, but i think you have been a bit rude.Lets talk about cars, thats why i have post this thread.
There is nearly twenty yrs difference in styling between the GTE and the 308. Show people the two side by side and most would probably pick the 308 as a Ferrari and not the GTE. But the GTE is more traditional "Ferrari" than the 308 simply because of the 12 cylinder motor. If you are so inclined, all you can make from a 308 is a 288 GTO clone. The GTE can and has been rebodied/modified into all sorts of replicas/fakes because it shares the heart and soul of all early Ferraris. One interesting thing I noticed was there were no GTE's at the Cavallino Classic, why not?, there are certainly many out there in show quality condition, but none were on display.
Sorry J. didn't mean to offend, I guess that was my idea of humor of which I guess I am as guilty as Horsefly in that it isn't as funny to everyone. By the way, are you Portuguese or of another nationality living in Portugal? Regards, Yale
As a 308 owner I appreciate the picture you're painting. A few comments: - "Magnum P.I." featured the 308. "Miami Vice" had a Daytona (replica) and a TR. - Mass produced is a relative term, they were still manually assembled and I believe there are more 360 than 308. - Design was Pininfarina, not FIAT. Thankfully FIAT gave it its rust protection, something earlier Ferraris lack. - If 8 cylinders is the issue. Well then there are a lot of Ferraris that don't deserve their badge. - 308s were used in Rallying. Michelotto built some special version. - Racing future was the 288GTO, but the FIA cut that short due to the horrendous accidents in Group B. - If you happen to have the phone number of that loose lady. That might be interesting... PS: There is actually some irony in the bickering of GTE vs 308: The GTE's ultimate racing incarnation was the GTO and of course the 288 paid tribute to that in its own name and design. So in essence you could even argue there is a bridge between these two cars.
tifosi12, please no offence intended. I was just reacting to a previous post. I had never thought of your PS, irony indeed!
Hehe. Well this thread is nothing compared to the 1,200+ posts in that other thread he single handedly keeps alive by continually pouring gasoline into the bonfire.
I also own a 328, while Julios post may seem harsh their is unfortunately some truth to it, the 308 series was a great car though and I still have fun with my 328 but once you drive a V12 you get quite a different perspective of what Ferrari is about which my carbed BB did for me. Only recently has the GTE been recognized and appreciated for its engine and heritage, they were an unloved Ferrari for many years due to being soft and heavy plus the 2+2 stigma and I can see why some would buy one in the past to turn it into something beautiful such as a GTO replica but I don't think that is happening today. Lets also not forget the F40 and 288GTOs are basically turboed 308s as well.
Andreas, I like to think that my occasional squirt of lighter fluid on the 0846 thread helps as well. Actually, in between all of the entertainment new facts do occasionally materialize. J.P., Unfortunatly, the rebodys are still occuring. Regards, Art S. PS. I had a second response to Julio this morning but it isn't there now. Was it removed?
You're right, you do help keeping the BBQ going. So does Jim and that's a good thing. I love that thread! If we'd all agree on everything all the time, there would be no need for FChat. We'd all be hugging each other and sing Kumbaya. PS: I disagree with so many posts in this thread here, that I have so far managed to stay away from it, but Julio broke the camel's back. I pick my battles.
Thanks for your support. I don't really throw gas on the flames, more correctly I throw Heinz mustard on the Grey Poupon. But I do some legwork too. I was talking to the owner of a "barn GTE" a few months ago. Actually more of a "garage GTE". It hasn't moved in about 15 years. Brake trouble and covered with dust and junk. I'm no fool. I know that it's worth far more than a 308. And if it comes up for grabs, I would definately be interested. The owner says that some day we can drag it out and take a look at it. But I still think a 308 looks more like what a race car should look like.
And the buyer was never meant to pay for the bodywork either. After all, didn't Enzo himself say, "When you buy a Ferrari, you're paying for the engine. The car is free."
Tse-tse fly in a Ferrari? Never. BTW, the 308s and V12 2+2s are very different cars for very different purposes. If you judge them both against the original driving purpose, they're both really good cars. Don't bash, get one of each...
If you think making a gte into a gto is sad, some genuine 62' gto's have had there bodies cut off and then been made to look like a genuine 62' gto.
