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  1. Aardy

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    Yes. It suits it perfectly ! ;)
     
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  2. Admiral Goodwrench

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    Thanks Cyril for this photo of my old car, had not seen it before!

    Best regards,

    Robert
     
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  3. JAM1

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    I’ve got to believe it’s a rare event to come across a photo of your old car you hadn’t seen. Part of what makes this thread so great.
     
  4. Aardy

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    23-24 July 1955, 10 Ore Notturna Messinese, Messina, Italy


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    Sport oltre 2000 cm.

    #4 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0578M Umberto Maglioli/Olivier Gendebien DNF Scuderia Ferrari
    #5 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0522M Franco Cornacchia/Francisco "Chico" Landi DNF
    #6 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0570M Maurice Trintignant/Eugenio Castellotti 1st Scuderia Ferrari
    #10 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0530M Luigi Bordonaro/Luigi Piotti DNF

    Sport fino a 2000 cmc.

    #16 500 Mondial Scaglietti Spyder Prototype 0306TF (?) Gilberto Cornacchia/Giuseppe Rossi 6th
    #21 500 Mondial Scaglietti Spyder 0562M Joao Rezende Dos Santos/Oscar Caballen 2nd OA 1st IC
    #23 500 Mondial Scaglietti Spyder 0446MD(0556MD) Gino Munaron/"Byriado" DNF
    #25 500 Mondial Scaglietti Spyder Could it be 0528MD ? Guido (Fernando ?) Mancini/Gastone Crepaldi 5th

    27 Ferrari 2 l (0264M ?) Franco Benzoni/Morpurgo Raced
     
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  6. kare

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    Flat cowl makes me think of the Scaglietti renumbered as 0424MD. Had a wide windscreen and twin headrests installed for 1955 Liege-Rome-Liege already! 0498M was already in the US.
     
  7. Aardy

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    You mean the car was french blue at Hyères in May 1955, repainted in red with white stripe at Messina in July 1955, and repainted again in french blue at Liège-Rome-Liège in August 1955 ? Well…:confused:
     
  8. kare

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    Paint is cheap, you can always find me another mid-series car having a flat cowl in 1955! I recently looked into it and couldn't.
     
  9. Aardy

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    Sorry to ask but what do you mean exactly by « flat cowl » ? I can’t see the differences with the others 500 Mondial. Thanks in advance !
     
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    Dear Cyril, I believe Kare is referring to the wiindscreen mounting. The early cars had windscreens attached to a flat cowl and the later cars had the windscreen faired to the cowl. Will post couple of pics in a little while.

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    Seventy years ago with a credible performance Gino Munaron in his 2 liter 1955 500 Mondial S2 was holding down second overall behind Castellotti in a 750 Monza in the 10 Hour race at Messina. With less than half an hour to go, the control fork in the transaxle sheared and the result was a very disappointing DNF.

    Twelve years later I was driving this same car at a required refresher driving school conducted by the SCCA on 14 May 1967 at the brand new sports car race track at Bryar Motorsport Park near Loudon and Concord, New Hampshire wearing number 75. At this event I broke the same transmission shifter control fork attempting to shift into third gear, leaving me only with 1st and reverse gear. The part which sheared was responsible for selecting 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th gears. In those days I would drive my car to and from the various race tracks, so I had to drive the 75 miles back to Cambridge, Massachusetts by starting in 1st gear at each stop light, then shifting with a big screwdriver stuck down into the transaxle filler plug opening picking any gear other than 1st.

    Shortly thereafter Gui Menoni who was Chinetti’s NYC parts manager found a replacement control fork for me which was beefier than the original, so I suspect that Ferrari figured out the weak point. Photos attached. I replaced the part but thanks to Navy assignments the car then went into hibernation for 41 years.

    Fast forward to 2009 at the FCA National at Road America when driving on track I had difficulty selecting third gear from second. Same thing happened on track at Millville in 2010 and Elkhart again in 2013. I finally disassembled the transaxle one more time and discovered that there was inadequate clearance between the brackets on the gear control rods which created interference for the control fork when attempting to move into position for third gear. Obviously this was a problem from the beginning in 1955. Two minutes with a grinder and clearance created and for the glorious two hours on track at Laguna Seca in 2015 shifting from 2nd to 3rd was slick and easy.

    Sorry for going off topic!

    Best regards,

    Robert

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  13. kare

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    Yes, and this absolutely isn't one of the early "flat cowl" cars in chassis number range 0428M-0470MD - eventually followed by the first version of 0486M.

    I think 0498M and 0502M were hurried through production saving some hours in production to make it in time for Sebring in March 1955, so 0498M was also built with "flat cowl" and 0502M was built sans headrest.

    I have struggled to find another mid-series car with flat cowl and can only think of 0424MD with the exceptional wide windscreen conversion done in 1955. Most such conversions were done much later when appendix C-ruling was introduced for 1957 and among other things a full width windscreen was required in order to reduce the top speed

    Mancini's car does not seem to have any fairing for the windscreen.
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    I have found in an old publication that before the DNF, Munaron had set the fastest lap in the two-liter class in 3'44" (average in km/h: 133.689).
    Compare this with the absolute fatest lap of Mieres and his Maserati in 3'26" (average in km/h: 122.946).
     
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    Fantastic pic ! I would have given a lot to see your Scaglietti spyder in action ! :)
     
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    #2293 Aardy, Jul 23, 2025 at 11:27 PM
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    24 July 1955, Circuito Internacional de Lisboa, Monsanto, Portugal

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    #10 250 Monza Pinin Farina Spyder 0420M Hans Tak 9th
    #11 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0554M Masten Gregory 1st
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    750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0548M Willy-Peter Daetwyler 4th
    #14 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0486M Jacques Jonneret DNF
    #15 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0556MD(0446MD) Francisco Godia Sales 3rd
    #16 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0440MD Jean Lucas DNF
    #17 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0560MD Fernando Mascarenhas 6th
    #18 750 Monza Scaglietti Spyder 0572M José Arroyo Nogueira Pinto DNF
    #19 250 MM Vignale Spyder 0332MM Joaquim Felipe Nogueira 5th
    #20 250 MM Vignale Spyder 0326MM Antonio Borges Barreto 10th
    #21 735 Monza Pinin Farina Spyder 0444MD Herbert Mackay-Fraser 7th

    Fastest lap : #15 Godia Sales in 137,310 km/h

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    Start of the race.



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    Oficinas da Palma, Morgado & Cia, Lisboa after the race (source : wikipedia)
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/1955-07-23_GP_Lisboa_Ferraris_Palma.jpg
     
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