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  1. DJ4200GT

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    #1 DJ4200GT, Feb 18, 2006
    Oh boy the plot thickens...A friend of mine who has his second 430 on order just got out of his dealer and called me...he was not supposed to get his car till Oct/Nov of this year but his dealer just called him up to spec it out for April/May. The dealer hinted strongly that Ferrari is taking precautions in the event they do not get their waiver. Apparently it is confirmed that they will start producing more cars for the US market until they know for certain that they will not get the waiver at which point they will put on hold all other world production to produce as many US 430s as possible to fufill demand. Dealer estimated they would be able to produce as many as 1,500 F430s which will would litterally be dumped on the US market during the course of the year. Things should get interesting...thats a lot of cars to be consumed at once!
     
  2. titanium360

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    #2 titanium360, Feb 18, 2006
    1500 cars in a span of how long?
     
  3. DJ4200GT

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    #3 DJ4200GT, Feb 18, 2006
    I would assume from now until the Sept. deadline, and based on Ferrari's annual production this number (1500) seems accurate. My question (which I also posed to my friend) is does this mean they have to find 1500 people to spec cars for in the next few months? Or is the factory just going to produce cars the way they want them and offer them to the US public??
     
  4. bostonmini

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    #4 bostonmini, Feb 18, 2006
    The customers are already there, the orders could come in within a month for all 1500 no?
     
  5. peterb

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    #5 peterb, Feb 18, 2006
    If this information is correct i would imagine that the company will be in the process of quickly developing a successor to the 430 and we can forget to see a 430 cs since 25% of the production would be allocated to the US.

    It will be interesting to see what happens and this might mean that they will concentrate their marketing efforts in 2007 and 2008 on the 599 gtb until they can replace the base model
     
  6. DJ4200GT

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    #6 DJ4200GT, Feb 18, 2006
    It may not turn out to bad for Ferrari as once thought. Sure it will be a burden but since they have the high demand I do not think they will loose that much in the end.
     
  7. lapeter

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    #7 lapeter, Feb 18, 2006
    If there were 1500 coming to the USA. I'm sure there at at least twice that many buyers ready to order, myself included (are you reading this Sean Harris?)
     
  8. fatbillybob

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    #8 fatbillybob, Feb 18, 2006
    Cool with Ferrari dummping 430's at the fastest pace Ferrari has ever produced the new 430 should topple the 348 as the worst Ferrari ever built. I can just see the electrical nightmares.
     
  9. deeroff

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    #9 deeroff, Feb 18, 2006
    Given the "waiting list" is already several years long, there will be no problem IMHO if this is true.

    Indeed, many of those purportedly on the "list" who in fact would never get one (see, for example, what happened with those on the list for a 360) may actually have a shot.
     
  10. racerdj

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    #10 racerdj, Feb 18, 2006
    As the buyers are alerady there, I like this situation better than some of the posts on the "Any news from dealers re. 2006 F430 allocations?" thrread.
     
  11. DJ4200GT

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    #11 DJ4200GT, Feb 18, 2006
    Hey now, I always had a thing for the 348, be nice =) But as for you other point, Ferrari would neeeevvvver sacrifice quality control, no that would never happen (rolls eyes) In all honesty though the 430 coupes seem to be holding up well so far...
     
  12. SrfCity

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    #12 SrfCity, Feb 18, 2006
    I call BS on this rumor. They have other obligations and can't just crank out solely for the US market. There's no question that they just can't begin to fill the huge demand for the 430. It seems like there are a lot of stories floating around so add this one to the list. At this point I'll tend to believe what is quoted from someone of authority at Ferrari SpA.
     
  13. racerdj

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    #13 racerdj, Feb 18, 2006
    Can any other fellow chatter confirm this great possible change in USA allocations?
     
  14. DJ4200GT

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    #14 DJ4200GT, Feb 18, 2006
    The more I think about it, it seems like a brilliant idea by Ferrari-- the rest of the world will be short on cars for a few months (the demand for the rest of the world isnt as much as in the US anyway) and next year when Ferrari can not send cars to the US the rest of the world will catch up when all the units they didnt get this year are sent to them...in the end it works out for everyone! It may even work out better for Ferrari because the may be able to sell more Scags and 599s being that they do not have a 430 to offer.
     
  15. mkultra

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    #15 mkultra, Feb 18, 2006
    the exact words of my local dealer was..."since when have the Italians cared about our needs?"!
     
  16. racerdj

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    #16 racerdj, Feb 18, 2006
    I think it has improved.
     
  17. j15

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    #17 j15, Feb 18, 2006
    I'm not so sure about that.
    In the short term the ass will fall out of the mark ups and the price may collapse when a dump is on in spite of how high demand is because there are always sepculators. The opposite will happen in the rest of the world as they grapple with the shortage and prices will sky-rocket, if this idea is indeed true, it will result in massive price instability across the world market for the 430.
     
  18. Fly'n DutchMan

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    #18 Fly'n DutchMan, Feb 18, 2006

    Agreed, even if it was true, 1500 cars in 9mo's isn't anything other than normal production. Ferrari made about the same numver of cars last year in the same time frame.

    The bottom line is F430's are selling as fast as I can find them.
     
  19. jjmalez

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    #19 jjmalez, Feb 18, 2006

    hello DJ,

    i look forward to your post's on f-chat. i am not going to take any personal shot's at you as i don't know you and you are entitled to your opinion. that being said, you do have a doccumented history of posting comments that would make the uninformed think the value's of ferrari's top selling models are about to drop.

    most potential ferrari customers (either buyers or speculators) are well aware of current market values of these cars. and wether they are going to enjoy their purchase or "flip" for profit, i don't think your posts are going to sway them one way otr the other. so continue to post gloom and doom on ferrari. the rest of us know better.

    regards,

    joseph
     
  20. DJ4200GT

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    #20 DJ4200GT, Feb 18, 2006

    Sorry to disagree, but I did not post anything about "gloom or doom" just information...take it for what its worth (which is obviously nothing to you) FYI if prices on the 430 were to fall as an owner I would loose money...so what you propose is pretty absent-minded to say the least.
     
  21. switchcars

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    #21 switchcars, Feb 18, 2006
    Yes, but if they don't get the waiver....then production will CEASE for the US for a while, thus negating any affect the increase in US supply would have!
     
  22. jjmalez

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    #22 jjmalez, Feb 18, 2006
    hello DJ,

    thank you for your response. but it wasn't i who was banned from f-chat for a period of time for constantly posting derogitory comments about the values of ferrari 430's. you may wish to revisit your 08/18/05 post titled "holy crap F430 traded in for $192K." where you stated that F430's prices were "falling like rocks"

    enjoy your F430 :)

    joseph
     
  23. TcpSec

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    #23 TcpSec, Feb 18, 2006
    You think so?

    Italians would care about our needs when we produce
    something the would really like to consume.
     
  24. GCalo

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    #24 GCalo, Feb 18, 2006
    Does anyone have the like from this forum to the original issue which created this situation?

    I cannot remember in detail (as some others on the forum may also) the full problem Ferrari faces.
     
  25. speedy_sam

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    #25 speedy_sam, Feb 19, 2006
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