Ferrari vs Lambo - a frank discussion with special guest Allan Lambo

That shouldn't be difficult to find in sunny southern cali.

Keep us posted.....



Forza,


Cavallini

 

I disagree. Althought the CGT is a very nice car, it is not pretty. It is actually pretty lame looking, ala Boxster on steriods.

 

Lamborghini is obsessed with Ferrari? LOL

 

It has been my experience, that most Lamborghini owners, at some point in time were Ferrari owners too.

Some of you are really in dream world, thinking it is more prestigious to own an Fcar than Lambo. In the majority of the Worlds view, as also evidenced in AOL's Supercar poll where the Murci trounced the Enzo, a Lamborghini is the Ultimate achievement.

 

Are you saying you think a 430 Spider will get more attention on the street than a gallardo Spider? Youd be a fool to think so.

 

Let me get this straight, you're saying it is the top car as chosen by the vast unwashed that is still on dial-up?

 

For me that car would be perfect, u can see the sky, u can see the engine from inside the car, better torsional rigidity tha the spider, the looks when u "look" the back of the car from the outside, defenetly that car would be a dream come true

 

I live in Madrid but I have family in marbella and I used to go when I was a kid to the basque country and my girl´s friend´s father is from Perugia so we have something in common.
When u come to Marbella or spain e-mail me if u like and I´ll invite u to 1 or 3 beers.
cu

 

good morning g, they would have to say whith wich tyres and who was making the test (maybe fernando alonso), but, I´m also not sure that theres a difference in track between the 430 and the 430 spyder, they said in a test in track (not as big as nurburgring of course) the margin was 0,3 sec., of course, faster the coupe.

 

I also, of course respectfully disagree with u to, maybe have not expressed myself very well, the thing is, a street car that make a good lap in a track would objectively be well balanced, have good brakes, have a nice rigid chasis, good suspenssion, not be very heavy and have power in it´s engine, that´s not subjective thats objective.

For instance, a 308, 328, 348, 355, 360, all these is an objective improvement in these areas that I mentioned before but again making clear that I´m talking about street cars that have to be reasonable cars, thats subjective.

I think that like every truth, it´s not totally true but it has something to do with it.

Good morning man.

 

good morning, I think that u could express the same opinion witout calling the thread stupid.
moderator?

 

How many Gallardo V 430 threads do we need to have? Actually it's not the subject that gets boring, just the same characters with the same responses in thread after thread.

 

F spiders yes
G-cars yes

I dont know the attention where you live but in turkey F-cars takes more attention than Lambo cars

BTW there is a official dealer and service of Ferrari in Istanbul
but no official delaer and service of Lamborghini.
Same as Aston Martin and Bentley.

 

"One flew over Cuckoo's nest",now I know why you sound so familiar,you were one of the characters there.

 

"Find me an F430 guy with even the balls enough to modify it."

Why would I waste money modifying my F430, when I can have a 430 Challenge car? I want to go fast on track in something serious, not fool around in a tarted up street toy.

I hope to see a "Gallardo Challenge" car, that would be something - if Lambo has "even the balls" to make it



"Some of you are really in dream world, thinking it is more prestigious to own an Fcar than Lambo."

? You care?



Cheers.

 

Challenge car whoopie!!!!!!!! I'm talking 250 more RWHP..
Enzo killer material..Forget challenge....You have no idea how foolish
that statement is...But then how could you? ..You've NEVER
driven a car like this. I hadn't either and I've had the best performance cars
money can buy.

 

"Challenge car whoopie!!!!!!!! I'm talking 250 more RWHP..
Enzo killer material..Forget challenge....You have no idea how foolish
that statement is...But then how could you? ..You've NEVER
driven a car like this. I hadn't either and I've had the best performance cars
money can buy."

Wayne, good morning. And relax, I'm a Lambo fan, and I have no problem with street car mods.

I'm not sure what car you're talking about - maybe I'm just waking up slowly today. Whatever it is, I'm pretty sure I've driven race cars that would blow it away.

Cheers.

 

OK Wayne, I get it now, Posts 19 and 37. Sounds like you have an incredible car, would be interesting to have the details, have you posted them here somewhere? Link? But what's the point? That it would be impossible to modify an F430 to outperform your car in some way, 0-60, 0-100, lap times, dyno, whatever?

I was reacting to the "balls to modify" comment. If I want to play with a 430 for speed, that means, to me, tracking the car, not impressing 16 year olds at stoplights, and I know from long and expensive experience that I'm better off with a race car than a converted street car. Have you gutted your Gallardo to reduce weight? If only dyno #s translated directly to better performance.

I'm working on mods to my 360C.

 

This has to be one of the silliest things I have read on here. Do you honestly believe this or are you just trying to be controversial?

Your statement would lead us to believe that the 360 would have been the last V8 developed by Ferrari had it not been for Audi's introduction of the Gallardo. The succession of 308, 328, 348, 355, 360 would lead me to believe that Ferari has a long history of upgrading this series with improved performance on each iteration. I don't remember Lambo being much of a threat during this long progression.

Do you understand product lifecyles? Do you understand the development lead time associated with new models? I'm certain the 430 was well underway long before the Gallardo was introduced.

Unfortunately, I believe you are far more intelligent that your statement so you must have said this just to stir people up. You generally have good insight when you choose to act like an adult, if you could control yourself a bit better people would enjoy having you around.

 

Regarding tracking your car...you know as` well as I that the primary difference on the track is driver skill. after you are as good as you can get
then worry about the mods and the edge they will give you.

Regarding my car.....My primary fun is on open Road race venues.
Silverstate for example. No I have not "gutted" the car. I also like Qtr mile
stuff,had a ten sec Viper etc.Additionally, I have not outgrown Grudge street
racing under the "right" circumstances. I might take this car to Bonneville for a few top speed passes.

The engine as I have said in previous progressive posts has been
dis-assembled Steel sleeves inserted, Ross 9 to 1 pistons,free floating rods etc installed. The Builder jason Heffner,is a perfectionist and a record
holder qtr mile driver himself.(8b sec 1000 hp Vipers) He WARRANTS his engines for 1 YEAR!

If you've driven race cars with more power...... I can believe you. This isn't the World most powerful car.
It is However arguably the fastest car that will driven daily by 99.9% of us.......

The Idea of reworking a Lamborghini or Ferrari engine scares Most builders
and the owners are usually VERY adverse to "touch" these engines.

If I had a 430 and could talk Jason into doing the same thing to it I would.
Jason would probably do it for me ???

I just hear all this hear all this "the 430 is a faster than the Gallardo etc"
that I laugh because they have no idea what a truely "fast" car is.
The sad part is they don"t have the "balls" to find out.
I had a 288 GTO and flooring that car at 90 and` seeing black strips
in my rear view mirror was a rush. The 430 certainly would be even more
fun with a turbo charged application.

Evryone buys/modifys their cars for various reasons.
I only wish I had A Ferrari counterpart so we could take this F/L
word war to another Level.

 

It is known fact that Ferrari rushed the 430 into production in order to meet the Gallardo. If you didnt know that, or believe that, you are living on Fantasy Island.

 

You are smoking some Instanbully Turkey hash. Let me put it to you frankly, If you drove a Gallardo Spyder next to a 430 Spyder, people would crawl over the 430 to look at the Gallardo. I watched it happen in Miami, with myself being the pilot of the 360 Spider, with a Gallardo coupe on the same street.

 

If Lambo and you aren't obsessed with Ferrari, why do you bother making a thread like this and posting it in the Modern section? Do you ever see any Ferrari owners doing similar things on Lambochat?

If Lamborghini as a company is not obsessed with Ferrari why does almost every press release or corporate comment they make have something to do with Ferrari....

......the Gallardo's explicit goal was to be faster than the 360....when the 430 debuts and it faster than the Gallardo, even though it has fewer HP and TQ, Lambo immediately ups the HP and the gearing of the G so that it's quicker than the 430....the Muira concept is "Lambo's response to the Enzo".....in discussions about the Murci's successor Lambo/Audi brass say they are determined to be bigger and faster than Ferrari....AND ON AND ON AND ON.....

When was the last time you heard Ferrari even mention another make?

But Lambo isn't alone in this regard. Porsche's CGT came about after they heard of the Enzo.

The sad part is that Lambos have enough character on their own to not compare themselves to anyone, the way Horacio Pagani has done. But Lambo and people like you can't seem to overcome Enzo's original 'dis. It's sad, really.


Forza,


Cavallini

 

Dream on......



Forza,


Cavallini