Ford GT crushes Ferrari in resale value....

My car is Blue with a white stripe also. You have great taste my deind

Good luck with your new toy.

Lee

 

Not sure about pedestrian on the FGT, but is is a gentle and refined car for the man wanting some comfort. It is not fast as my Mclaren 12C or the 458 but it will still get up and go. I love driving the car. I take from your comments you will not be buying one.

I have had tree ferraris and I never warmed up to the 458. It just does feel or handle like a performance car. No doubt it is a great looking and sounding car. I wish I had kept my 360 or 430. This will most likely be my last new ferrari.

There are better drivers cars on market now. They do not have the bame at least yet.

I loved my ZR1, a much better car in every way then the 458. I am looking forward to my new 2014 vette in October. We will see how it handles.

My new 2013 Viper is a muscular car. A great noise and power . It actually drives very well which should durprise everyone as it surprised me. It is such a different car even from just a few years ago. Limited production I was told. I never had even seen the new one untill I happened to stop buy a dealership as a "look see" mission. The lines are smoother and more flowing than the past.

Good post Luke

Best,

Lee

 

Can't say anything bad about the SPF-40. It beat a 15 year old Ferrari grand touring car around a racetrack (!) And it's not like anyone who gets one of those cars would send it off to a shop like Olthoff to get $20k or so worth of sorting and upgrades to make it right. Nope, people just get them and drive the wheels off em with nary a problem. No one ever had to send a transaxle back to RBT or have had a warranty claim with Roush. Yep, the SPF-40 has a stearling reputation and no problems whatsoever.

Come on fella, chain jerking has gone far enough. Go back to your regular forum an giggle about all the fun you had on f-chat.

 

what's an SPF-40? Sunscreen?

 

Sorry To be so uninformed. What is a SPF-40? I am not trying to be funny or argumentative

Thank you

Lee

 

SPF-40 = Superformance GT-40. Luke knows what I am talking about. Dontcha Luke.

 

Congrats! I too have a FGT and a CGT.
For the FGT crowd...our national rally (the 8th anniversary) is in 10 days in Sonoma. 5 days of wonderful NorCal roads. Can't wait!

 

+1

Every SPF I've seen needed a bunch of tweaking (suspension, bump steer, cooling, panel fit, etc.) to make it right. It's a roller that needs a motor and gearbox sourced once it gets to the US. Finding a correct ZF is tough. Whole tech threads on GT40s.com about this. The SP is what it is... the most accurate replica of the original car. Lots of other makers out there...CAV, Roaring Forties, RCR, etc. I looked at SPF's years ago and felt like I was sitting in a coffin. At 6'4", no way I fit. Not even with a Gurney bubble and the seat padding removed.
The best way to get a SPF is used....after someone else has sorted it out. You will get it at a discount.

 

That sounds like it will be a ton of fun!!
You'll have to keep us updated.
Stay safe out there!

 

Have a ton of fun at the FGT Rally! Wish we could participate, but we are hosting a function at our home that weekend and was committed to long ago.

So, to topic: Love my FGT and must admit, it is great to see the values climb, which by the way, will not alter my desire to drive the car. The F-Cars and P-Cars in my collection continue to lose value (save for the 356 Cab), but don't really care. They are all cherished and driven.

The Vettes in the collection (c-1 & c-2's) have greatly appreciated and eclips the prcentage gain in the FGT value by several factors. Still, these cars are driven, well cared for and will always be in demand, which I believe will be the case with the FGT. Better than money in the bank, right?

Looking towards the future, what should be added? Another FGT? Yes, that would be wonderful. A set of "his & her" FGTs. Wife is on-board with this. And, by the way, don't have the discipline to buy and hold a car.... That is to say, not drive it... You all know the analogy here.

Believe the next prudent buy would be the CGT. Values are south of MSRP today, but what about in 2-5 years? Those that own, what is your perspective?

 

I love my Ford GT. Glad the prices are going up. Won't sell mine though. My Dad picked up aFGT a couple of years ago with 200 miles Red/white. He got his for about 200. He is happy he got one. Love my car. Here is a pic.
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You are my kind of owner. I agree with you 100%. Enjoy your collection

My C1 has gone up in value also. What surprises me is the 65 Vette have stayed flat and I think that is the best looking vette style ever. I wonder why? Maybe because they made so many?

Lee

Lee

 

I have a CGT which i purchase almost 3 years ago. First car ever that I knew within a couple hours of driving that I would never sell it. Seems an incredible value to me at the current prices and have no doubt that these will remain in demand and more and more loved. The cars have actually moved into a second life since a recent article in Evo appear about the best 'Analogue Supercars' last month. They tested a CGT with Michelin Pilot Supersports and confirmed what most owners have known for a couple years: the original tires (PS2) were not at the level of the car's dynamics. With PSS tires the car now has eliminated the tricky on the limit handling and it is communicative and easy. Evo ranked it in their top 3 of all time along the F50 and Mclaren F1. Beaten cars include the F40.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCpCbZaD8xc]McLaren F1 and Ferrari F40 vs analogue rivals | evo TV - YouTube[/ame]

The CGT has it all - its a proper supercar at a value price I think.

 

I am somewhat puzzled by your position and stance on this. Demeaning the FGT which has clearly attained icon status as a performance car/muscle car and exotic having hit all the bases is clearly not "pedestrian". Further while I would love to have a Superformance GT40 and think they are awesome I have to correct you.
No question the Superformance GT40 has been accepted into the SAAC World Registry and is considered a Continuation GT40 or "authentic". I believe it has been accepted into the Registry based on two criteria. First, its near exactness in construction to the original. Second, it's licensed name acquired from Safir.

I'm not going to get into the "replica" debate" here but clearly by its very nature your car replicates the original (by your own admission it is 95% exact). The FGT does not replicate the original in any way. It stands on its own as an updated version/modern reissue of the Ford GT. It does not contain any components from the original. It is superior to the original in ride and performance stock figures to stock figures. It is just a good looking.

Further, but for the licensing rights the new Superformance has nothing to do with Ford, SVT or the former Ford Advance Vehicles. Nothing. It is built by High Tech.

The Ford GT was manufacture red (also by hand) by Ford Motor Company the same company that brought us, made and sold the originals.

Further, the name "GT40" was only the initial project name and for the original GT. The original official name for the car was the Ford GT. That's an historical fact.

Again I love the Superformance GT40 and would have one but for double college tuitions.

 

I have to take issue with your statements. Pedestrian? The FGT has attained iconic status. It attained iconic status nearly right after it was released to the public. It has it all the bases. Looks, performance, quality in build and owner satisfaction. It is desirable to the American Muscle crowd, the exotic car crowd and the classic car crowd. Is there another?
Its performance surpasses the original Ford GT (commonly referred to as the GT40) when stock car is compared to factory stock vehicle.

As to your statement that the FGT is the "replica" not the Spf GT40, while I don't want to get into a debate on replica or real the fact remains that in a literal sense your car is a replica of the original. You yourself said it is 95% exact to the original. That would pretty much do it.

Don't get me wrong. I love the Spf GT40. I would love one myself if not for double college tuitions right now. You car is indeed considered an authentic GT40 continuation car by SAAC and is included in the World Registry of Cobras and GT40s. It is clear that the basis for this inclusion is the near exactness to original spec of the Spf GT40 and the licensed name received from Safir.

The FGT is not a "replica" of the original. It was never marketed or presented that way. It stands on its own as a updated reissue of the original. No car manufacturer could manufacture a completed running original spec GT40 for consumption directly to the public in view of DOT regulations today. The FGT had to be constructed to meet DOT regs as of 2005 and 2006. Point in fact the regs continually change and the FGTs won't even meet 2013 DOT regs. No part on the new FGT will fit an original. It is completely redesigned.

Further, the true name for the car was always Ford GT. The GT40 moniker came from press articles and from the original prototype project. The official name of the production car is as always was the Ford GT. The GT40 moniker caught with the public back then so that what the car was commonly referred to. Now with the iconic status of the Ford GT, the Ford GT name has now attained iconic status.

Cheers.

 

True. In addition, all this "continuation" cars in the registry nonsense, is just that-nonsense.
Original Cobras and Ford GTs(or GT40s, Mark 4s, JCars,etc) went out of production decades ago no matter what type of licensing is granted to their modern tributes(replicas, copies, kits, continuations, "lost" chassis numbers,etc). Many of these new clones are indeed great fun-but, original they'll never be.

 

Agreed. They will never be "original" cars. Only a finite number of those. Genuine Continuation cars do have an intrinsic value seen by many, not by others in their acceptance in the registry as genuine articles. In my view they clear have a inherent desirability and potential for future collectability depending on a number of factors most importantly whether production continues or ceases and then what caused that cessation.

I wish my crystal ball worked then I would know for sure.

 

That's a clone of my new GT, except wheels are black on mine

 

Nice! Post up pics please. Don't see many all blk GTs.

 

Here's my Black Beast
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The sun should set on this thread!
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William, I have to say that is one of the best looking GT's. Is it a 05 or 06?

 

Did that car from Russ Milne in Detroit?

 

With what 100 SPF GT40s in existence compared to 4000 FGTs, if SPF ceased production tomorrow the SPF car would in short order eclipse the FGT in value. One is a truly limited production nearly identical continuation while the other is a mass produced modern vehicle that is competing against an entirely different set of competition. I find the concept of a million dollar FGT to be head scratching at best. Think of the cars in that league and ask yourself would you rather have an FGT than say an F40? Maybe a Pagani Zonda? How about a Mac F1? An Enzo? A FGT has the same collectability as any of those cars? The koolaid drinkers will of course say yes but the market will never support that. Its a great cars but lets be real.

 

If we're drinking kool aid........ you're snorting yours straight out of the package.