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FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÊMIO DO BRASIL 2019: RACE *** SPOILERS ***

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  1. WJHMH

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    They could have done that with a pit stop under the safety car. Pretty easy solution.
     
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    Ferrari drivers called to F1 stewards after Brazilian GP collision - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com
    http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/147220

    I hope they find Vettel turned into Leclerc and he gets penalized. This way at least Binotto and team will not have any way to keep protecting Vettel.
     
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    Agreed. They should delay the podium ceremony by a few minutes if there's an investigation that might change the podium result.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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    Leclerc said seb did not let him enough room, pinched him in... Very strange sight :)
     
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  6. johnireland

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    Red Bull won. And it would have been a Honda sweep if not for the contact between Hamilton and Albon. But that looked like a fair racing incident. And seemed like bigger contact than that between the Ferraris. Charles/Seb looked to barely touch, and for whatever reason caused much more damage than seems normal. Vettel made the pass but came over onto the racing line a fraction too soon. But again, I'd call it racing. The reality, IMO, is that Ferrari was on its back foot the entire week end. All in all, a very good race.
     
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  7. lagunacc

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    Thing is, it takes hours to decide.
     
  8. Simon^2

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    Not usually. Kubica's unsafe release was ruled on in what,... 5 minutes. The stewards could have been 1/2 way through investigating before the cool down lap was over if that was the protocol.
     
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    Kimi might make it on the podium - that's be awesome.
     
  10. johnireland

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    Can't say I agree with giving Lewis the penalty. Albon left the door wide open, Lewis took the invite, Albon cut across very late, hit Lewis, and put himself out.
     
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    Albon took the racing line into the apex thereby leaving the door open. Lewis did not take the racing line. Then the inevitable happened.
     
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    Likely they're waiting for the inevitable protest from Merc, and the review of the review.
     
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    Mercedes has lodged protests of the cars in P1 thru P6... Offense: Impeding the rightful winner.
     
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    And who they think is the rightful winner ?
     
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    Toto Wolffe wasn't supposed to attend that GP.
     
  17. ricksb

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    wasn’t a cut-and-dry situation, but the fact is Hamilton finished in 3rd and Albon finished out of the points. Doesn’t fix everything (because Albon deserves to be on the podium) but there was some air of equalizing.

    Also, it was similar to DR’s incident Hulk, so there was that. I’m certain Ham accepts the penalty.
     
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    Wait...Ham said Max was the class of the field today. What gives?
     
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    "The Stewards reviewed video evidence and heard from the driver of car 5 (Sebastian Vettel), the driver of car 16 (Charles Leclerc) and the team representative .

    The Stewards determined that both drivers had the opportunity avoid or mitigate the incident and therefore that neither driver is predominantly at fault. Therefore the Stewards take no further action.
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    also

    "Hulkenberg has been handed a 5 second time penalty and 1 penalty point for passing Magnussen under SC"
     
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    Yes. Both acknowledge the risk (Albon- I didn’t know where he was but had to take the corner: Lewis- I put it on the line and took the gap, but knew it was risky). Albon got the worst of it coming from P2 to no points, so it almost had to be a penalty. Would have been the same if roles were reversed
     
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    Well done FIA. Despite the venom towards Vettel over here it was a minor racing incident with unusual levels of consequential damage given the contact. Neither driver was to blame on that one; just one of those things.
     
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    I'm amazed how quickly people here blamed Vettel.
     
  24. Kiwi Nick

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    Too bad for Albon. He deserved to be on the podium.

    I am over Vettel. He can't leave the team soon enough.

    Honda may be a major force next year.
     
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  25. RWatters

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    Congratulations to Toro Rosso and McLaren. What a drive from Sainz. Drive of the day by far IMO.

    Re: Ferrari. The way it was presented during coverage was LeClerc pulling a clean move on Vettel into T1, Vettel whining on radio, then the incident. LeClerc could've kept moving over to avoid Vettel but it almost feels as though Vettel was moving over like he was because he was upset over the pass into T1. It sure feels a bit like Turkey to me. To me it felt like another red mist moment from Vettel. Ferrari can't catch a break.
     
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