Found out dealer didn't disclose paint work

Got it. I'd be pissed off too if they literally said that and then it had "obvious" paint work. Good luck with the GM and let us know what transpires.

 

I don’t think you appreciate what “in writing” actually means, or the weight if it.

Matt

 

I agree with this method. Ask management/FNA politely for something to make you whole on the deal...either dollar equivalent or replace it with a similar spec car without damage/repair history. If they decline, then go the lawyer route. This is of course assuming the document you have specifically says no paintwork was done.

 

Another possible thing to consider is that the written statement you have is from a sales person.
I'm not an attorney and have no legal training, but I know the typical employee cannot sign contractual agreements binding the company.
In the old days, that's what the job title of Vice President or General Manager used to imply, that the person had binding authority for the company.
Over the years this has gotten blurred a lot, so I don't know if it will be an issue in your situation or not.

It may be that their defense will be that the sales person is just a low level employee and cannot make contractual commitments for the dealership.
Don't know, but thought I'd add that to the mix of things to think about.

Once again, it's best to tall to an attorney licensed in your state that has experience in car lawsuits.
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Sell me the car for $100k, I’ll put it writing that the price was due to diminished value of the car due to the paint work. I’ll even agree to testify for up to one day.

Then you will be rid of this obvious lemon and have a good factual basis to litigate.

I do understand, it’s like finding out your shiny new girlfriend has slept with both your brothers.






The above was simply an attempt at adding humor to a difficult situation.

Sorry for the predicament your in, and now you are a more experienced car buyer.

 

100% on the money. You'd be stunned if you knew how many Ferraris required body work after delivery to a dealer. The only Ferrari I had new was a Challenge Stradale. The paint was so crappy there were places were the black undercoat showed through. Fortunately, Rosso Scuderia covers up a lot of blemishes. When I asked about it, the service manager just shrugged his shoulders.

 

At a minimum, the dealer owes you an explanation of when the paint was done and why.

 

That and a $5 bill will get you a cup of coffee.

 

What is he missing?

 

Three pages and not a single photo.

I want to see what you missed and the pros found before I say anything.

Also no PPI?

I am a painter id love to see it.

 

Its unlikely an email or text constitutes a "binding contract" or would be considered part of the contract. More likely the legal issue here is one of fraud(ulent inducement). I'm no lawyer, but that's my guess.

 

sad but exactly what I would expect from a car dealer. you will get no where with them. hopefully, courts will offer you redress but even that is unlikely.

I would have the car inspected and see if there is any other damage besides the 4 panel paint. unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised if it had frame damage, bondo work, etc.

good luck!

 

160k sounds low for wholesale if the car is in just as they sold it condition, that would suggest about 185k retail.

 

Be careful with the information you share with Justin the salesperson. It is a classic thing for them to play “good cop, bad cop” using the Manager as the “bad cop” who always says no and the salesperson the “good cop” who pretends to be your confidant and advocate. but is really just feeding information to the Manager. They do this all the time in a car sales situation when the salesperson talks privately with the Sales Manager to “fight for” your discount. It is all an act. Something they do 20 times a week, every week.

 

This. ^

Take whatever he says and assume it means the opposite. Trust that he is not working on your behalf.

 

Good luck, from your other thread it sounds like you’re in a strong financial position and will be able to follow through with legal action rather than just threaten it. Car dealers seem to be a breed of people who are just untrustworthy, there are exceptions of course but they seem to be few in number.


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Do you have any pictures of this paint in question?

Arbitration usually favors the dealer, by way. When I went to dealer school that is exactly how they sold it to us.

If it was only paintwork and everything else is fine, you'd be better served just having the paint corrected than going after the dealer out of principal. I view it as good money chasing bad.

 

Good luck. I hope you get some form of compensation out of this.

As others have said, don't trust any of them, and be careful what you post online such that it does not potentially undermine any future legal action you take.

But keep the community posted so "we" know who can and can not be trusted and thus who gets our money and who does not!

(Not to the same extent but I've also been on the end of a dodgy car dealer so hope they man up and do the right thing by you.)

 

I'm sorry this happened to you. Your fustration is understandable, but proceeding how you have described without consulting an attorney would be unwise.

 

I'm still not understanding why your profile says you're 28, but you have said again you're 20.

Also, I would probably not go into detail on the story in a public forum like that and go with an attorney until things are sorted out.

 

I feel bad for you dansage...that's messed up. That sounds way more then 'a little scratch.' I can see why you would be frustrated. Assuming they had the arbritation clause already in the purchase contract. If you don't mind disclosing, what was the purchase price? Depending on the delta between 160 and that, maybe you can come with a middle of the road number for depreciation and miles and save additional pain and time.

Not sure if the guy would take it though, sounds like he got caught red handed and trying to save his behind.