GSX-R vs F1

my buddy is looking to sell his gsxr1000

 

Have you seen the hayabusa? 200mph derestricted. Yamaha I think always overestimate power and acceleration figures, like ferrari.

 

I had a gsxr 750 and loved it! I drove a friends 1000 all the time was too much for me. That bike is fast BE CAREFULL only for experts. You will learn a lot more on a smaller bike. The new 600 gsxr comming out is fast enough for anyone. Again if you are not one of the best ridders out there it is too much of a bike for you.

 

Can you give some examples of where Ferrari overestimate power and acceleration figures?

 

Low end grunt.

 

Whether you like it or not, you have a much better survival chance in your first year with less than 80 HP than with more than 100 HP.

After you survive an entire year without dropping or wrecking a bike, then you can consider buying a new top-of-the-line model. So, start with a used bike that you can afford the throw away.

Survival on a bike has a lot more to do with self control than with bike control. Bikes with big power and bigger brakes can spit you off faster than you chan sneeze.

Notice: a 72 HP bike (Ducati 900 SS for example) can do 0-60 in 3.3 sec; while a 150 HP (near) superbike can do 2.7. The difference is that the former bike can do this with little knowledge of clutch hand control and little thought of throttle control of rear wheel grip. The latter cannot. These big bikes are loats of fun, but they are animales, and can eat you up and spit you out in nanoseconds. They demand mucho respecto.

Also Note: The 72 HP bike will top out in the 145 range while the 150 HP bile willtop out in the 170-190 range. I spend a significant amount of time venturing into the 120,130, and 140 range. I have (personally) never needed to venture any higher--the risk reward relationship goes south very quickly above 130 MPH.

 

Get the Ducati. All 750+cc bikes are fast, but the Ducati is also beautiful.

Best!
Ben.

 

I've had a Honda CBR600 F3, Ducati 748S, and a Yamaha R1. I'm no track star by any stretch but have been street riding for a bit (yes, I can scrub the tire to the edge of the tread ). Currently no bikes but I must say my friend's GSX-R 1000 is a BEAST. More than enough power. I prefer the sound and every day practicality of the twin though. Should I ever get back on the saddle its going to be either an Aprilia or a Ducati. Suzuki also makes a liter twin with the SV, which I would also consider.

For a 4 banger monster you can't beat the GSX-R though. I'm not a good enough rider to be commenting on handling nuances but I must say that the R1 was a road scalpel, as was the Ducati. The CBRs seem sprung a bit too soft for hard riding. The R1 was pretty stiff with the shocks pegged. A friend of mine who is a better rider has said that just about any bike, Ducati and R1 inclusive, needs suspension work for real track use. Felt fine "out of the box" to me.

Art, I've heard, is an amazing rider so I'd go with what he has to say.

Art,

Have you heard of a Daniel Baldini? Raced Kawis I think. Privateer, although I'm not sure he ever got funded to race AMA or if he did race it might have been a short stint. Maybe an AFM rider? 600cc. From Napa, CA.

Cheers

 

I have a 2003 GSXR-1K. Bought it brand new last March. I had three Triumphs previously and they were all good, fast bikes BUT, my Gixxer is in a whole different league. This is the first bike that I have ever had that I can honestly say that it is frustrating to ride. Without doing track days you will never, ever, get to really see what it can do without running into the law.

As for the new R1. You can bet you a** that the 180bhp they are claiming is at the crank. They have also said that this is taking into consideration the ram air effect. So as someone mention before you are looking at a true 160ish at the wheel in stock form.

Nevertheless, the gixxer dyno'd at 147 at 500 miles on the clock and in bone stock form. With custom mapping and the new exhaust I am looking at somewhere over 150bhp at wheel. Does it matter, not at all!! Because regardless of how fast the new R1, CBR1000, and ZX10, there is no way that I would need anymore power on the street. It looks like by next year I will have the slowest bike (relatively speaking of course) on the block and I do not mind because no one short of a true track god will be able to use that type of BHP.