Hamilton deserves more respect | Page 149 | FerrariChat

Hamilton deserves more respect

Discussion in 'F1' started by Natkingcolebasket69, Mar 28, 2021.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. Phil~

    Phil~ F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Messages:
    3,937
    Location:
    Potomac, Maryland
    Never heard him say that he had no confidence. When George pitted Vowels said to stay out. Then Lewis asked how much faster Georges tires where. He was basically asking them was it worth the risk, and they said no.
    He wasn't even talking about the team there, he was talking about strategy in general. Safety cars have been the bane of his existence.
     
    Terra and DF1 like this.
  2. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2016
    Messages:
    24,280
    Location:
    Corpus Christi, Tx.
    Full Name:
    Joe R Gonzales
    There was a point where Lewis had a "tiff" when he responded "YOU TELL ME MAN!!!"
     
    Gh21631 and Bas like this.
  3. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Messages:
    42,714
    Location:
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    "I don't know if I can take him man". That's a lack of confidence is it not?
    Lewis Hamilton post #race Miami GP f1 2022 interview reaction - YouTube
    Here is he after the race in his interview claiming that he had no idea where he would be, that fully blaming the strategists for the result. That's quite funny, because when they give him the option to pit they tell him exactly where he'll be. After all his years racing for the team he apparently still doesn't comprehend that his team has his best interest at heart, and want the best possible result. They wouldn't give him the opportunity to pit if it wasn't a realistic scenario, that it would drop him too far back etc. What's gone on here is just the book of racing drivers' excuses applied in full.

    Lewis has a massive habit of trying to dictate the strategy. When it goes wrong, he blames them. The strategists give him the option and he still blames them.
     
    20000rpm, 360Tom, JJ and 2 others like this.
  4. gh0st0

    gh0st0 F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,856
    Location:
    Midwest
    I’m glad Lewis is back to being flip flop Lewis, he can’t plead ignorance all the time and take credit w hen it best suits him. This is the reason people have a disdain for him
     
    20000rpm, furoni, ypsilon and 4 others like this.
  5. pilotoCS

    pilotoCS F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    13,382
    Location:
    The Capital of The United States of America
    Full Name:
    Willis
    Oh great . . Spice Girl trivia . . everything I never cared about I now know whether I wanted to or not . . . . . just like Harry and Meghan.
     
  6. Sempre_gilles

    Sempre_gilles Formula 3

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2003
    Messages:
    1,844
    Full Name:
    AdK
    About this jewelry issue: it is announced that this "no jewelry rule" will be strictly monitored from now on, hence all the fuss and the silly 2 race exception for Lewis because he really believes that rules do not apply for him.

    But - the rule itself was already in place for a number of years. Strictly adhering to these rules means that each start of Lewis in these years was illegal and that in fact he should be stripped of all wins and championships in the years he was wearing the illegal jewelry during races.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2022
  7. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2006
    Messages:
    27,641
    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  8. pilotoCS

    pilotoCS F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    13,382
    Location:
    The Capital of The United States of America
    Full Name:
    Willis
    First of all I assume you're joking. Ha-ha:D. But, just in case you aren't, it is up to the FIA to enforce the rules, not the participants.
     
    william likes this.
  9. JJ

    JJ F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2010
    Messages:
    11,362
    Location:
    PA
    Full Name:
    24601
    How do you explain self-scrutineering, then? :)
     
  10. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2006
    Messages:
    27,641
    Don't tell, don't ask !!
     
    JJ likes this.
  11. pilotoCS

    pilotoCS F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    May 19, 2019
    Messages:
    13,382
    Location:
    The Capital of The United States of America
    Full Name:
    Willis
    Good point. And along those same lines, I would find it quite difficult to enforce the budget cap as well. But that's a work in progress.o_O
     
    JJ likes this.
  12. JJ

    JJ F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2010
    Messages:
    11,362
    Location:
    PA
    Full Name:
    24601
    Agreed. Maybe it's just my ignorance, but I'm not sure how they can point to Mercedes engineering and draw a line between, say, work on their F1 batteries and road batteries.
     
  13. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2017
    Messages:
    10,231
    Location:
    Miami and Bay Area
    I’m going to have to agree. His all interview makes him pass for not genuine when after all those wins he tells them thank u so much guys.
    I do agree the team is responsible for the strategy but I don’t appreciate his shade at them and throwing them under the bus post race.
    I’m sure it’s also hard for him to know exactly where everyone is at that time but he has enough experience to have a better behavior post race.
    As I have always said, I don’t like the man that much, I think he is a great talent but I do find him to be a bit phony at times.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    SimCity3, Kimi2007 and Bas like this.
  14. Phil~

    Phil~ F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Messages:
    3,937
    Location:
    Potomac, Maryland
    Eh I'm cool with him myself. Nothing he does is ever enough for most here so why even care.
     
  15. william

    william Two Time F1 World Champ Silver Subscribed

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2006
    Messages:
    27,641

    Yeah, it's a constant demolition job on Hamilton, and it's boring.

    I thought F1 was about racing, but here it's all about gossiping.
     
    Natkingcolebasket69 likes this.
  16. TopspeedPT

    TopspeedPT Formula 3

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2012
    Messages:
    1,103
    Location:
    Portugal
  17. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2017
    Messages:
    10,231
    Location:
    Miami and Bay Area
    Personally not gossiping- just noting his post race interview wasn’t teamy. I felt it was just weak.


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
    20000rpm, SimCity3, stavura and 2 others like this.
  18. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Messages:
    42,714
    Location:
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    He'd be much more likeable if he won and lost with grace. The throwing under the bus of his team is getting old and is entirely predictable...even at his age he does it too often. IMO he thinks too much of how he is portrayed by others. That's fine in your early 20s, many men haven't fully mentally developed at that age, but at his age...come on.

    Things go wrong, **** happens. Be a man in public. And no it's not unreasonable at all to handle the issue behind doors, as it very well should be....and it's far more effective, too.
     
    20000rpm, SimCity3, 360Tom and 3 others like this.
  19. JJ

    JJ F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2010
    Messages:
    11,362
    Location:
    PA
    Full Name:
    24601
    Uh, this is the 'Hamilton deserves more respect' thread, not a race or even a racing thread. Nobody forces you to click on it. Hell, if I had a crane I'd happily lift you out of this thread so you could get back on track and rejoin the racing threads. :D
     
    20000rpm, Bas, stavura and 2 others like this.
  20. ypsilon

    ypsilon F1 Rookie

    Joined:
    May 4, 2008
    Messages:
    2,628
    Location:
    the Netherlands
    Fully agree, you expect a leader to take control and guide the team with regard to the matters he has control over.

    He's doing almost the exact opposite. Complaining about the car and trivial things like the jewelry rules. Rules that even been part of the sport for decades.

    In the years all things were going for him he was only too happy to receive the applause, comparisons with Senna etc. He never made the reservation that he was in a lucky position, with easily the best car on the grid. Part of the problem is the British press as well, which aren't critical at all.
     
    20000rpm, SimCity3, gh0st0 and 2 others like this.
  21. Phil~

    Phil~ F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Messages:
    3,937
    Location:
    Potomac, Maryland
    He showed more grace after Abu Dhabi then literally any other driver on the grid. I give him a pass for that alone.
     
  22. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    23,476
    Location:
    KL, Malaysia
    Full Name:
    MC Cool Breeze
    slowly downing to this drama queen, that he's just an ordinary driver in extra ordinary cars most of his career. Now in an ordinary car, he's just an average driver at most, blaming everyone but himself.

    The merc has massive potential development, but it's not a slow car. GR is proving that. He's hustling the car very close to the podiums. Drama queen is just throwing his toys out of the pram.

    I hope GR crushes him week in and week out. All this comparison of Senna and MS is just pure nonsense. It's always the car. Always been. There's nothing special about Lewis. 2022 is proving this.
     
    20000rpm, Dino2010, gh0st0 and 4 others like this.
  23. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2005
    Messages:
    23,476
    Location:
    KL, Malaysia
    Full Name:
    MC Cool Breeze
    He should have not been that close in AD to begin with. Should have been DQ at Silverstone, and given at least a 1 race ban for that professional foul
     
    20000rpm, Dino2010 and JJ like this.
  24. Phil~

    Phil~ F1 Rookie Rossa Subscribed

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2013
    Messages:
    3,937
    Location:
    Potomac, Maryland
    So you dislike hard racing? That is a silly take.
     
  25. Bas

    Bas Four Time F1 World Champ

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2008
    Messages:
    42,714
    Location:
    ESP
    Full Name:
    Bas
    I think the penalty received, all things considered, was mild, but it is what it is. I don't think DQ and race ban was in order, either, mind you.

    That said, people defending Lewis' Silverstone actions were begging for Max to be banned in Jeddah and even Brazil. The FIA set the precedent giving mild penalties to far more serious actions.

    Reality is that people on one side of the fence will always argue for harsher penalties and vice versa.

    Mercedes and it's fans (particularly the twitter lot) should look back on last season and see that they really did have quite a lot of leeway/help from the FIA to even get them in the position to fight for the title in the last round (mid season wing directives, unquestioned mega engines, suspicious suspension and so on), and they're (still) focusing on frivolous details to try and hand the title to Lewis.

    Alonso at the time summed it up quite nicely: "Justice".
     
    20000rpm, Giallo 550 and SimCity3 like this.

Share This Page